Future of Coil in DF

[Arakatos]

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I don't think it would be an issue to be honest. People's habits aren't really going to change. The one's who can't down T5 now should be ilvl100+ by 2.4 or whenever Coil3 is out. Remember that 2.3 has Sands/Oil/Unidentified non-allagan available without having to raid. Even if they don't echo buff Coil more, groups should be able to survive dive bombs and honestly twisters is very easy to dodge mechanic and phase 5 is braindead. So a big group of players will pass T5 who can start on Coil2 with better gear than current raiders and maybe another 5-15% echo buff on top.

I think it'll work out like this on average. Casual players will finally clear T5 but stuck on T6-7, Mainstream players will be blocked by T9 and Hardcore will be on Coil3. With each Coil update I think progression will be made by all groups and DF will be the way casuals and mainstream can farm lower Coil for gearing up alts and practice for w/e is roadblocking them. PFs can take awhile to form, so why not queue in DF and double check PFs.

[Ruethryl]

People derp to snakes and twisters from my experience with T5 at this point when I've bothered to DF or PF it.. or kill the whole group with a divebomb.. don't think I've actually had a successful T5 clear in a pug group on my main or alt, though T1 - T4 are np.