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    While I agree OP (assuming your talking specifically about the content your supposed to do between "I'm raid ready" and "It's raid time")... This is how things have been ever since WoW came through and kiddy fun timed everything.

    MMOs for the past 10 years.....

    step 1: follow the quest symbols around the continent until your 50 (99.9% of this done solo.... yay for MULTIPLAYER)
    step 2: stand in town until dungeon queue pops
    step 3: run 1 of the 6-7 dungeons that are available (hoping for some form of randomness? Nope same dungeon with same pulls with same bosses with same rotations)
    step 4: loot gear from above dungeons
    step 5: repeat step 2-4 until you have the necessary gear to raid
    step 6: sit in town until raid time... Maybe do 2-4 some more for a misc reason.



    Yep..... Glad they took out grinding from MMOs.. you know that thing you did as a group between raid times to steadily improve your character. Good news is I know how to get on top of every building in town!


    Quote Originally Posted by Meier View Post
    We only have coil atm for end game raiding


    This. 4 raids totaling an hour of content a week is sad. Look at every other MMO out there both old and new. They have 12-15 raids and usually take longer to complete.
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 06-27-2014 at 04:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarzak View Post
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    Yep..... Glad they took out grinding from MMOs.. you know that thing you did as a group between raid times to steadily improve your character. Good news is I know how to get on top of every building in town!
    Yes, let us go back to the days of bot camping rare spawns for those {Booties of Incomparable Awesomeness} so that the Raid Leader will judge that i am geared enough to join him and his fellow bot campers in that Raid!

    And lets not forget mindlessly killing endless hordes of respawning monkeys to generate enough Experience to gain a level!

    They did not "take out" the grind, the grind merely changed forms. And don't even try to tell me open world grinding was "Social", because "HEY YOU GTFO MY SPAWN CAMP NOW!" was not being very social.
    And grinding groups? Yeah, hey guys, brb one moment! just keep killing, ill set you to follow and I'll brb! (2 hours later group realizes guy still isn't back and is freeloading XP)

    Yes, the "special" times. I surely do not miss those.
    have you never considered merely pacing yourself? There is no need to do a weeks worth of stuff on reset hour, you have a whole freakin week to get it done! Take a break, go outside or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Welsper59 View Post

    That's because they have years upon years to progress their raids. Also, I don't think there are any new (even old) MMOs that have 12-15 relevant endgame raids at any given time.
    The ones I've played that I can give accurate information on.


    EQ: 8-9 top tier events with another 8-9 in the expansion (and if you have played EQ you know lower tier content is not completely invalidated by higher tier content like in modern MMOs)
    Rift: 8-9 20 man events per tier. another 5ish 10 man events.
    WoW: original raid (MC) had 9 events. Quick google says the current stuff is 14 events.


    They have had almost a year and were still looking at 4 events per tier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    have you never considered merely pacing yourself? There is no need to do a weeks worth of stuff on reset hour, you have a whole freakin week to get it done! Take a break, go outside or something.
    While the rest of your post is lunacy and isn't worth the time to respond to.

    SO explain to me how my weekly FFXIV time should go.

    Lets see. To improve my character (alts included) I can.... cap my soldiery (for alts). Do raids. Get Novus. ok so lets see the average.

    Without being at home to check its something like

    1. 90 soldiery a day simply doing expert and trial roulette.

    -----So 30 minutes a day for 5 days. 2.5 hours total.

    2. Raids. Lets say the average group is 3 hours a raid night (2 full instances) 3-4 nights a week.

    ---- total 9-12 hours a week.


    So we have a 11.5-14.5 hour a week play time.

    ~2 hours a day averaged out.


    Are you suggesting the average casual player plays less than 30 minutes a day on average? (note the casual meaning non raider.. so all they have to do is soldiery cap and maybe do some myth farming)

    And a raider plays about 2 hours a day on average?

    /sarcasm on

    Yep clearly were not pacing ourselves enough locked up inside at all hours of the day never seeing the sun.

    /sarcasm off
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