Why not THF job?

[Exstal]

5 isn't enough? Owell. Imma go heal Turn 5 with my smn.

Thought of it this way? You have rogue, uses 2 daggers as wpns. What thieves would use? 2 daggers also. How would you change class between thief and rogue if they were 2 different classes? Unless SE decides to use 1 handed daggers/smallswords. But hey, wait. Gladiator/PLD currently uses daggers and smallswords and swords. So no daggers either. See the problem? Also, it's said that Nin uses "Mundras" which are kinda magic no? Well, I would think that those would be the Job skills and they stated those are going to be the main way of dealing dmg, in one way or another. So if Thf would get purely melee actions/steals/boosts what ever it'd for me atleast a completely different job. As are SCH and SMN even when they have only 5 skills (Job skills ) different.

I guess I forgot to explain why this doesn't work. So let's start with SMN vs SCH. Let's temporarily ignore that their roles are different and look at strictly DPS SCH vs SMN. How do they play?

Bio II => Misma => Bio => Shadow Flare => Ruin Spam

So what if SCH was in fact not a healer and another DPS called Necromancer? Then you'd have a job that plays basically the same as SMN with a different motif (being undead and what not).

So now let's come back to SCH vs SMN in reality. These jobs are different because they serve different functions. A healing SMN does not play like a SCH just because you have physick. That'd be akin to BLM playing like SCH because it has physick.

SCH - healer
SMN - DPS

Unless you're saying;

NIN - DPS
THF - tank

Unless Mudras are the entire rotation of Ninja, then I don't see a reason in having Rogue class at all. Your class is your foundation. You play a "specialized" class called a job. So at heart, minus those 5 skills, you are playing whatever class with a specific focus. I play a Arcanist with a specialisation in healing, or a Pugilist with a specialisation in punching things, but at the end of the day that's what I'm playing. An Arcanist. A Pugilist. So unless the devs pull some wildcard, it should follow this pattern.

[AniCelestine]

Unless Mudras are the entire rotation of Ninja

Thats what I understood from the Live letters. And yeah, it would be completely useless to have rogue at all as a class, unless they have thief planned as a 2nd job to rogue. But until we completely know how rogue and ninja works, these discussions are nothing else but a battleground for raging people with no real reason as we don't have all needed facts to debate wether or not we should be demanding/wanting thief.

[Exstal]

Thats what I understood from the Live letters. And yeah, it would be completely useless to have rogue at all as a class, unless they have thief planned as a 2nd job to rogue. But until we completely know how rogue and ninja works, these discussions are nothing else but a battleground for raging people with no real reason as we don't have all needed facts to debate wether or not we should be demanding/wanting thief.

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