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  1. #11
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    Princess_Rosilee's Avatar
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    Princess Rosilee
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    Haha, I've been feeling bad about needing ballad at the start of last phase with my 4,3k MP.
    Well, my team has me pretty spoiled. We got two bards in our static so it's never really a problem for me on how I choose to use my mp. The problem is I don't spam shrouds, because using constant regen,cures and cure 3s can rack up, so I save shrouds for when dreads pop. D: So yeah about 30% in I'm like "ballad whistle" XD and they're just like.."dammit rosilee" XD
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  2. #12
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    Staris's Avatar
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    Character
    Staris Fate
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 60
    My advice is, don't cleanse the dot.

    It hardly does any damage and is a pretty decent indicator of when the next big damage is going to come on the tank.
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  3. #13
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    Lovemonster's Avatar
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    Character
    Para Nara
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    I don't know about this, it ticks for 600 five times for 3000 damage over 15 seconds. In the long run you save significant MP by just cleansing it. Scholars should generally leeches this rather than WHM because they can use lustrate along with it.

    If you're MP efficient you can do this fight without ever needing Mage's Ballad. Using medica II instead of cure III, not using succor cure II or adloquium, etc.
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  4. #14
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Character
    Purple Rain
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemonster View Post
    If you're MP efficient you can do this fight without ever needing Mage's Ballad. Using medica II instead of cure III, not using succor cure II or adloquium, etc.
    I don't know, I think I'm being MP efficient. I never use Cure III and I only use Cure II for dreadnaughts (not spamming it but usually casting 1 or 2) and when tank is eating mines and on tank after defensive reactions in phases 1 and 2. I use Shroud of Saints for each dreadnaught. Still I use an X-ether and Hi-Elixir during the fight and need a ballad at start of 3rd phase. I'd say it's because I'm still nervous about healing the last phase with double booms but I'm running out of MP right before last phase starts.
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    Last edited by Taika; 07-02-2014 at 11:59 PM.

  5. #15
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    Grotesque's Avatar
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    Character
    Alan Turing
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    In the last two weeks as all folks are now comfortable with the fight, I didn't need ballad anymore and left the fight with 1k MP remaining. Cure 1 Spam and cure 2 Procs, regen on tank. DS+Medica2 after raid dmg and let it tick, because you have enough time till next damage. Regen+SS on Tether/Brainjuck-BRD. SS on Allagan Field. Thats it. No Cure 3. Our AF always does 0 DMG because we time Raiddmg + AF to blow up at the same second always.
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  6. #16
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    Sapphic's Avatar
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    Character
    Sapphic Meow
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 90
    As MNK I pop Mantra when the Gaseuos bomb target appears just after the first dread as healers are casting Medica 2 and Succor. Gets everyone topped up fine. The SCH has time to pop cleric stance and do some dottage on Avatar as theres a lull in healing required and WHM can easily keep tank topped up. Then you can rotate Mantra between MNK and BRD.

    But yep, homing missile, one person take it away from the party, healers can Adlo and Stoneskin them.

    But GL on turn 8, is a fun fight.
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  7. #17
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    SCH advice

    if your static is starting then you might need all the dps you can have
    so either use Eos and use her healing support to put your dots more often
    or focus on healing only and use Selene to boost the DPS a bit
    Shield before explosion, before missiles, use your stacks on lustrate mostly or sacred soil if you want during dreads
    Use your 3 stacks per minute so you don't have MP issue once you start healing more during Allagan field
    Adlo the person with Allagan
    I am usually the one leeching the tank of dots (sometimes i just heal through it though)

    additional stuff from my team
    As SCH I handle 2 towers
    I also handle the missile (first one to step in)
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  8. #18
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    Noll's Avatar
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    Character
    Noll Aestel
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I mostly heal t8 with just Selene's embrace.
    It's just a matter of knowing when to use certain heals/skills during the fight.

    My job as scholar is:

    Keep selene buffs up (I use her manually, and I made a macro to ensure I use both with the same button that also triggers embrace).

    Don't cast physiks or adlo, keep your GDC clean in order to leeches the debuff immediately.

    Use Adlo/Physiks only when the tank gets the dreadnought (we do it with 1 tank alone).

    I usually keep my 3 lustrate charges for the defensive tower. After defensive triggers, I spend 2 charges on the tank (with a leeches inbetween for the debuff) and 1 on the homing missile dps guy (the bard in my team). After it, Succor and then Aetherflow.

    Repeat on next tower.


    During the Allagan Field phase, well, Adlo on fielded guy, and pre-succor + sacred soil the party if necessary.
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  9. #19
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    KikoriL's Avatar
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    Character
    Kikori Lyehga
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    My advice is, don't cleanse the dot.

    It hardly does any damage and is a pretty decent indicator of when the next big damage is going to come on the tank.
    Either your tank is a beast or your healers get insanely lucky with crits. The DoT effect is incredibly strong.

    1.) Whispering Dawn can cover Defensive Reaction damage, if nobody's getting blasted any time soon. Don't waste MP here.
    2.) Divine Seal is amazing for Dreadnaughts and double-Defensive Reactions.
    3.) Swiftcast for Stoneskin when you have an Allagan Field coming within seconds of a Defensive Reaction blast (and it will happen).
    4.) Adlo drains before Stoneskin, so watch the buffs to know what to re-cast.
    5.) The off tank only needs extra attention via Regen.
    6.) If Shroud of Saints / Aetherflow are off cooldown for more than 10 seconds, you're doing it wrong.
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  10. #20
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    Grotesque's Avatar
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    Alan Turing
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by KikoriL View Post
    3.) Swiftcast for Stoneskin when you have an Allagan Field coming within seconds of a Defensive Reaction blast (and it will happen).
    Nope. You can trigger all defense towers, thus they line up with AF explosion. => Never ever any Defense tower hits on AF up. Makes last phase a cakewalk.
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