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  1. #31
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    Neri's Avatar
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    Neridia Neririncia
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It does seems practical to go for 3 stats though? Since if you are going to aim for the BiS, you will get the Hi-Allagan weapon anyway. So once you get the Hi-Allagan, won't your Novus become obsolete though? Well until the next tier pop anyway.
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  2. #32
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    Sam Witch
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    And bam! You've spent 300k on a crappy Weapon. Let aside that Acc for example is pointless on a DPS Novus, since you can reach the ACC cap for T9 with Gear alone.
    Secondary stats are not gimping a weapon. The base damage is what's important. I personally will be sacrificing crit because before coil2, I maxed crit as much as possible and didn't see much of a difference. So I will max determination only. And as for BiS, complete BiS includes upgraded weathered gear which may not have accuracy. And also, it may be very difficult to have a complete set of true BiS gear.

    Basically, base stats are the most important. So it makes sense to mix and match secondary stats with what you have to work with and not worry at all about some random dude who may think your gear is gimp. Performance speaks for itself. You can still be top dps or w/e job your playing without having the so called best in slot.

    And sorry for going off topic, sort of.
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  3. #33
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    You need 12 atma to do atma
    The animus books are a guaranteed boost each time you completed 1. (myth rate gain has increase a little)
    Novus is 75 Alexandrites and you have a chance of failing those treasure maps if you don't do it as a team and you can't beat Biclops, Malboro, or Mythril Golem on your own with a chocobo. Also you'll be using a minimum of 75 materia which infusing also has a chance of failure.

    So no the Novus grind isn't really getting easier since there's no "materia shop" because if you don't have the money to spend on materia you're gonna have to go get your gear to 100% spirit bond and play the range game again.

    Not that it is as bad as it sounds but Animus isn't as big of an issue as Novus when it came to "enjoying" the grind.
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  4. #34
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    Secondary stats are not gimping a weapon. The base damage is what's important. I personally will be sacrificing crit because before coil2, I maxed crit as much as possible and didn't see much of a difference. So I will max determination only. And as for BiS, complete BiS includes upgraded weathered gear which may not have accuracy. And also, it may be very difficult to have a complete set of true BiS gear.
    You did not understand what i said. To make it more simple to understand:

    There is no point in adding a secondary Stat to a weapon, if it does not increase ANYTHING, such as Acc above the T9 cap is pointless. It does not matter if Crit does only increase 1% per ~15 Points, it is still more than ACC above currently highest needed value will do. At that point even Skillspeed would be more beneficial.

    OP is basically speaking about the Gil Value he has to spend on a second/third Animus, so he want a "cheap" setup to make it possible... The thing is, Novus does not require a single Gil, unless people are really lazy. So the whole "gil talk", about the Novus Stage, is moot in first place.
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  5. #35
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    Alukah Bast
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    The other side of the argument is, if you only care about the main stat and weapon/magic damage, why not get unweathered? That's pretty much the reason why some people are going Novus instead of unweathered.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    The other side of the argument is, if you only care about the main stat and weapon/magic damage, why not get unweathered? That's pretty much the reason why some people are going Novus instead of unweathered.
    And the ability to upgrade it in the future.
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  7. #37
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    I don't know if it's that people can't read, or I have expressed myself poorly. The first sentence of my thread "what happens with the people that already have their novus or are are very close from it"?
    Which means, you may want to do a second novus for a secondary job you also enjoy, but you are NOT going to spend 4-5 millions gil to increase your critical hit rate BY 1% ON YOUR SECONDARY JOB.
    I honestly think you guys answer threads without reading and what is worse, thinking.
    Depends on the person I guess. I've been stocking up on Materia for awhile I have 99 Savage Aim I/II/III/IV and 99 Savage Might I/II/III/IV I been buying them specifically for the reasons you said I wouldn't and I know other people will do that aswell
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  8. #38
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    A'lyhhia Tahz
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    Lamia
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Alukah View Post
    The other side of the argument is, if you only care about the main stat and weapon/magic damage, why not get unweathered? That's pretty much the reason why some people are going Novus instead of unweathered.
    There are few reasons people are going for Novus:

    1. Super glowy weapon Yay!
    2. It's slated to be even further upgradable later.
    3. Some people don't raid or can't get past Turn 8, so the Novus is their most viable option for an i110 weapon.
    4. The importance of secondary stats may be being overestimated.

    The third reason will of course change as more sources of Sands of Time are released, but it's valid right now.
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  9. #39
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    Tal Young
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Putting accuracy on the weapon helps future proof it somewhat. Might be pointless now, but you know that in the future something will require higher accuracy and if you put acc on it you know you've got something ready for that day.
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  10. #40
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Novus is easier?

    Maybe, its not need you to do annoyed FATEs waiting, annoyed stealing over rare mobs that spawn so slow, annoyed doing leves that not the one you want before right one available and annoyed waiting DF as DPS while you so worried about FATEs that you probably waiting on it and hope its pop before DF pop OR WORSE, CRAP! Both DF and FATE pop together!

    Holy shit

    Yeah! its easier!! indeed!
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