The Novus grind is getting easier...but the Animus...isn't...?

[Nero]

SCH: 21 DET, 33 Crit, 21 Piety
WHM: 21 Det, 33 SS, 21 Piety
DPS: 21 Det, 33 Crit, 21 Acc
Tank: 33 Parry, 21 Det, 21 Acc

And bam! Your Novus no longer costs 4 million gil. Instead, it costs 300k gil.

And bam! You've spent 300k on a crappy Weapon. Let aside that Acc for example is pointless on a DPS Novus, since you can reach the ACC cap for T9 with Gear alone.

[Zozor]

And bam! You've spent 300k on a crappy Weapon. Let aside that Acc for example is pointless on a DPS Novus, since you can reach the ACC cap for T9 with Gear alone.

Or you could change some of your gear slot pieces to something without accuracy so that it has additional det/crit to make up the numbers without blowing 4mil

[Felis]

If you mean the Alexandrite from the Hunt, they are not free.
This is like saying that you get free myth gear by doing duty roulette

[Alkel]

Not possible, unless you go with lower iLvL and not BiS, which means gimping yourself in general. Most BiS pieces do have Acc, even if you lack several points, you usually can gain those via food.

No matter how many tier IV you put in your novus, the T9 weapon will still be better.
If you want to go for BiS, its useless to burn tier IV materia on a novus, go for T9 instead.

And it will be the same with the next zodiac stage, there will always be another weapon with a better ilvl.

[Nero]

No matter how many tier IV you put in your novus, the T9 weapon will still be better.
If you want to go for BiS, its useless to burn tier IV materia on a novus, go for T9 instead.

And it will be the same with the next zodiac stage, there will always be another weapon with a better ilvl.

Yes, that is indeed true. Regardless though, if people go for Novus they should get the best possible options out of it, or they are wasting Time/Gil/whatever.

[Alipoprocks]

And bam! You've spent 300k on a crappy Weapon. Let aside that Acc for example is pointless on a DPS Novus, since you can reach the ACC cap for T9 with Gear alone.

Secondary stats are not gimping a weapon. The base damage is what's important. I personally will be sacrificing crit because before coil2, I maxed crit as much as possible and didn't see much of a difference. So I will max determination only. And as for BiS, complete BiS includes upgraded weathered gear which may not have accuracy. And also, it may be very difficult to have a complete set of true BiS gear.

Basically, base stats are the most important. So it makes sense to mix and match secondary stats with what you have to work with and not worry at all about some random dude who may think your gear is gimp. Performance speaks for itself. You can still be top dps or w/e job your playing without having the so called best in slot.

And sorry for going off topic, sort of.

[Nero]

Secondary stats are not gimping a weapon. The base damage is what's important. I personally will be sacrificing crit because before coil2, I maxed crit as much as possible and didn't see much of a difference. So I will max determination only. And as for BiS, complete BiS includes upgraded weathered gear which may not have accuracy. And also, it may be very difficult to have a complete set of true BiS gear.

You did not understand what i said. To make it more simple to understand:

There is no point in adding a secondary Stat to a weapon, if it does not increase ANYTHING, such as Acc above the T9 cap is pointless. It does not matter if Crit does only increase 1% per ~15 Points, it is still more than ACC above currently highest needed value will do. At that point even Skillspeed would be more beneficial.

OP is basically speaking about the Gil Value he has to spend on a second/third Animus, so he want a "cheap" setup to make it possible... The thing is, Novus does not require a single Gil, unless people are really lazy. So the whole "gil talk", about the Novus Stage, is moot in first place.

[Giantbane]

You did not understand what i said. To make it more simple to understand:

There is no point in adding a secondary Stat to a weapon, if it does not increase ANYTHING, such as Acc above the T9 cap is pointless. It does not matter if Crit does only increase 1% per ~15 Points, it is still more than ACC above currently highest needed value will do. At that point even Skillspeed would be more beneficial.

OP is basically speaking about the Gil Value he has to spend on a second/third Animus, so he want a "cheap" setup to make it possible... The thing is, Novus does not require a single Gil, unless people are really lazy. So the whole "gil talk", about the Novus Stage, is moot in first place.

With a market everything you do has value. Materia you created yourself could have been sold on the market. So that's money you could have had but do not. Which, in terms of a bunch of Tier IV materia is pretty large.

Secondary stats give really small contributions overall. It's not nothing, and there are a lot of them total on the novus, but we're not talking about the whole thing. We're talking about changing 11-17 (probably more with RNG and all) very expensive Tier IV crit and det into accuracy (which you may or may not value depending on current gear and desire to future proof yourself) or skill speed. If that's worth multiple millions of gil to get that little bit (we're probably talking a quarter of half of 1% of your total dps ... maybe) extra is up to you. But it by no means makes that weapon worthless.

This is a vertical progression game, the weapon won't last you forever anyhow.

[AzakaTonnerre]

There is no point in adding a secondary Stat to a weapon, if it does not increase ANYTHING, such as Acc above the T9 cap is pointless.

I'm sorry I did not realize that T9 was the end all/be all for the game. Apparently no content in the future will need more stats than the cap for T9... it is now, literally, the pinnacle of challenge for FFXIV and gearing for beyond it is "pointless."

I don't really have a side in this discussion, but this argument for what to put on/not put on a weapon is as foolish as it is shortsighted.

[Viridiana]

I'm sorry I did not realize that T9 was the end all/be all for the game. Apparently no content in the future will need more stats than the cap for T9... it is now, literally, the pinnacle of challenge for FFXIV and gearing for beyond it is "pointless."

I don't really have a side in this discussion, but this argument for what to put on/not put on a weapon is as foolish as it is shortsighted.

Except of course the future content will come with future items with future accuracy on them already.