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    Why does this patch feel rushed like when the game was released?

    I'm assuming SP is messed up since you were supposed to solo with leves and thats not really possible at the moment.

    Gathering leves are messed up because they send you to spots packed full of 40+ agro mobs

    Hate is messed up and people are having problems taking down the major NMs

    there are still issues with the game freezing or disconnecting and you get booted from a raid if you do.

    mp seems unbalanced (this is understandable since they said they would balance out the game)

    While I fully understand the difficulties of implementing a new system there is no real excuse for sticking a bunch of high agro mobs right where a gathering leve is supposed to be done. All that shows is that they didn't consider that when creating the patch which essentially means it is rushed. I realize people will say "give them time, 1.19 is the fix-it-all patch" but honestly, its been almost a year. The quality of patches is continuously disappointing. So please in the future, just postpone release for a month and fix things. the little things DO matter and do effect how people perceive the game.
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    short answeer ,
    Why does this patch feel rushed like when the game was released?

    because it is.
    i love 1.18 direction but lets stick to the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I'm assuming SP is messed up since you were supposed to solo with leves and thats not really possible at the moment.

    Gathering leves are messed up because they send you to spots packed full of 40+ agro mobs

    Hate is messed up and people are having problems taking down the major NMs

    there are still issues with the game freezing or disconnecting and you get booted from a raid if you do.

    mp seems unbalanced (this is understandable since they said they would balance out the game)

    While I fully understand the difficulties of implementing a new system there is no real excuse for sticking a bunch of high agro mobs right where a gathering leve is supposed to be done. All that shows is that they didn't consider that when creating the patch which essentially means it is rushed. I realize people will say "give them time, 1.19 is the fix-it-all patch" but honestly, its been almost a year. The quality of patches is continuously disappointing. So please in the future, just postpone release for a month and fix things. the little things DO matter and do effect how people perceive the game.
    for real.....
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    I don't think players are trying to adapt to the change more than they are fighting against it.

    People are bashing hate system before they even know how it works.

    People are bashing abillity changes before playing for more than a few days with them "Or sometimes play with them at all"

    People are bashing MP changes before again playing for a few days to see how they can adapt to the new playstyle.

    I think it's more of a problem of people "Rushing" their assumptions on how these change the game, many things are totally game-changers but people are jumping the gun to bash the new systems before trying to work inside of them. It's a case of "It's not as easy as it was before" before people even know whats going on.

    Mages are mad because they can't solo NM's anymore, Archers are made becasue they don't outclass everyone anymore, people are mad because leveling has slown down a bit, people are mad because things changed.

    People don't like change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I don't think players are trying to adapt to the change more than they are fighting against it.

    People are bashing hate system before they even know how it works.

    People are bashing abillity changes before playing for more than a few days with them "Or sometimes play with them at all"

    People are bashing MP changes before again playing for a few days to see how they can adapt to the new playstyle.

    I think it's more of a problem of people "Rushing" their assumptions on how these change the game, many things are totally game-changers but people are jumping the gun to bash the new systems before trying to work inside of them. It's a case of "It's not as easy as it was before" before people even know whats going on.

    Mages are mad because they can't solo NM's anymore, Archers are made becasue they don't outclass everyone anymore, people are mad because leveling has slown down a bit, people are mad because things changed.

    People don't like change
    I agree with this 100%.
    But i also agree this patch is really unpolished.
    Is what the "i want my content/patches now!!!" crew does to a game.
    So now the same people are the ones who are complaining about bugs/unbalance.

    Oh the irony.
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    The irony is this patch was delayed an entire month (or was it even more?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    The irony is this patch was delayed an entire month (or was it even more?).
    It should have been delayed more.As we can see it was not enough .
    Whats the worst could happen , whoever have not left yet, is not going to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    I don't think players are trying to adapt to the change more than they are fighting against it.

    People are bashing hate system before they even know how it works.

    People are bashing abillity changes before playing for more than a few days with them "Or sometimes play with them at all"

    People are bashing MP changes before again playing for a few days to see how they can adapt to the new playstyle.

    I think it's more of a problem of people "Rushing" their assumptions on how these change the game, many things are totally game-changers but people are jumping the gun to bash the new systems before trying to work inside of them. It's a case of "It's not as easy as it was before" before people even know whats going on.

    Mages are mad because they can't solo NM's anymore, Archers are made becasue they don't outclass everyone anymore, people are mad because leveling has slown down a bit, people are mad because things changed.

    People don't like change
    I agree completely but speaking as a 50 mrd and 50 arc, doing rank 40 leves solo is -boring- now. Not because its hard or because i dont like change, but because its the same thing except with /sitting to heal between battles. And you end up with a lot less SP. It's like they extended a grind nobody liked in the first place (and i've got like vintage hauby +1, engraved bhuj +1, crab bow +2, etc, so its not a matter of gear)

    And theres no excuse for screwing up gathering leves. Thats just really poor planning. not a gamestyle change or anything like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber View Post
    I agree completely but speaking as a 50 mrd and 50 arc, doing rank 40 leves solo is -boring- now. Not because its hard or because i dont like change, but because its the same thing except with /sitting to heal between battles. And you end up with a lot less SP. It's like they extended a grind nobody liked in the first place (and i've got like vintage hauby +1, engraved bhuj +1, crab bow +2, etc, so its not a matter of gear)

    And theres no excuse for screwing up gathering leves. Thats just really poor planning. not a gamestyle change or anything like that.
    Why are you doing R40 leves when you're at R50? Go do the dungeons.
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    Change is fine if it's a good change.

    The current problem is partly people aren't being objective about the changes (mages and archers needed a little nerfing). The other part of the problem is the patch wasn't without flaws.


    Quote Originally Posted by Azurymber
    The quality of patches is continuously disappointing.
    I'm not sure I can call it disappointing, but then again maybe my expectations for this game are that low now. Still, this game is going to be a WIP for the foreseeable future.
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