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    Richiealvian's Avatar
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    A bit of a fear on future crafting involving rapid synthesis

    I've just realized the potential of Craftsmanship rating.. paired with Steady Hand II and Rapid Synthesis, it's very massive. Even with crappy +craftsmanship food, you get very massive boost with Rapid Synthesis.

    I have a bit of a fear that moving forwards, this might be a thing, basically forcing you to have some chance to actually FAIL, not just getting the NQ. What do you guys think about this? And how would you act?
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    Scan the forum for 100% HQ rotations, and you can study those to see how people do it at end-game.
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    My 3-star furniture rotation is

    Steady Hand
    5x Piece by Piece
    Ingenuity II
    3x Careful Touch II

    Rapid Synthesis requires Ingenuity, Piece by Piece doesn't. Rapid isn't worth using.
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    Well, I've almost gotten my 4th supra, I'm not having any problems with rotations at the moment but just wondering if somehow PBP will be insufficient some time down the road (maybe not in the near future) but would that be possible? Or will it always outshine rapid synth no matter what. I mean for example, low progress items which would barely budge? (if it ever happens in the future)
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    With my current stats, if they made a recipe so tough that Careful Touch II under Ingenuity II only gives 20 progress, I figure I can complete a recipe 100% that requires over 5,000 progress without any luck.
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    That's awesome, one less thing for me to worry about then! I was thinking something along the lines of a 300 progress recipe, with like 8k quality and careful II gives you like you said, 20-30 progress. Then i guess my current set would last me quite a while.
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    I can honestly say that I have not used Rapid Synthesis once in A Realm Reborn.
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    I an see a time where they may make it more a viable option. but necessary.?? I hope not

    but then other than keeping my gear current I've pretty much stopped crafting.
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    They have a pattern of implementing things to consume other materials but not to flat out destroy them without conversion into something else. With that said I'd be shocked to see rapid become mainstream in order to HQ

    Also I have never used rapid either for crafting, it has no point really atm with its poor gil return vs not using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elasia View Post
    They have a pattern of implementing things to consume other materials but not to flat out destroy them without conversion into something else. With that said I'd be shocked to see rapid become mainstream in order to HQ

    Also I have never used rapid either for crafting, it has no point really atm with its poor gil return vs not using it.
    Poor gil return...?

    Are you confusing Quick Synthesis (make a lot of items quickly) with Rapid Synthesis (Armorer lvl 15 skill, 50% success rate, 250% synthesis progress)? This thread is about Rapid Synthesis, not Quick Synthesis. (And incidentally, Quick Synthesis is amazing if you want to make a lot of materials like ingots or lumber quickly since recipes that use those items can typically be easily HQ'd whether using NQ ingredients or not. Quick Synthesis is also great for making a ton of items to desynthesize for skillups or for Battlecraft and Fieldcraft Demimateria.)

    On the topic of Rapid Synthesis, much like Rumination it makes a nice crutch for crafters early on, when they don't have a lot (or any!) crafts at level 50. I wound up saving many a synth when I underestimated how much progress Basic Synthesis would give me, and Rapid Synthesis gave me a 50/50 chance of finishing a recipe that I'd otherwise break.

    Back when I was crafting Golden Gears for my Goldsmithing tool, I didn't have Weaver or Armorer leveled to 50 yet. Stacked with Steady Hand II, Rapid Synthesis did excellent work for me in covering big chunks of the high Synthesis requirement for the Golden Gears.
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