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    Djarums's Avatar
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    Are there any other deaf / mute raiders out there? How do you deal with it?

    Looking to see if there are any other players around the server, and how you deal with possible raiding and being asked to get on voice programs.

    It's scary for me and I usually end up making some kind of dumb excuse... But im a good player so I know this wont work forever.
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    While I'm neither, I have played with someone in that situation while I was raiding in WoW. It's not a big deal to many people, but it does require said person to put in a little more effort at doing well compared to their peers. Just be honest about it, because if your FC members/friends think that's a big deal, they're pretty shallow people. The FC just needs to remember that you're in that situation and so they have to type out any special instruction. You won't be able to respond to voice chat issues (spawns not being picked up and whatnot) but sometimes people can type it fast enough... or you would just need to be a lot more attentive. Essentially, compromise needs to happen in some way, and it's usually going to come from the person in that situation.

    In FFXI, we never used voice chat for endgame content until years after release. We managed just fine, granted that there was some slack on that for the most part. People set up macros to notify others of incoming dangers, which is something that can still be done here if people take the time to make them.
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 06-26-2014 at 04:33 AM.

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    Valmar's Avatar
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    Valmar Atheron
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    Since Communication is a big part of Progression Raiding. Just because you are Deaf or Mute, doesnt mean you can't Communicate.

    In the heat of battle, Macros are your friend.
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    Syanonn Rias
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    Yea seems like the English community rely a lot of voice chat programs for communication unfortunately. Wasn't much of a problem when I was on Mandragora (JP server) where we rely more on macro to inform party members

    There was a pretty epic thread by BamDeafPie on how the community discriminate against deaf players before mods deleted that thread. But you can still look for threads he post, some addresses deaf accessibility.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/m...853-BamDeafPie
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    Ilitsa Samariya
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    While I'm not, a good (online) friend of mine is, I met her on Ragnarok Online, where we tackled most of the hardest content together without much issue, then on WoW where we raided together, and now on here where we're more relaxed, but we're still doing CT and started coil, working on getting a static group set up still.

    Anyways, point being, she's deaf/mute, but personally, I'd not have anyone else at my side in a raid because there's really no one else that I know will have my back when I need it. Be open and honest about it, and if they have an issue, leave and find people that will respect you regardless, because there ARE people that won't care and will value you.
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    IMO being deaf would be harder than being mute. And both would only really hurt if you were in a role that needs to call out "curve ball" situations.

    like OT having to yell at the MT to do something they should be doing due to some mechanic (OT gets frozen for example on T2 and can't pick up the add)

    Heals if one needs to raise and the other needs to pick up the slack.. etc etc

    I'm not saying I'd discourage you from playing one of these roles but I could see it slowing things down until your group gets in sync and can just read each other.

    Being deaf would definitely be rough though... At least being mute you can still hear everything and just have to type out YOUR responses. Where as being deaf everyone has to type if they intend to keep you in the loop.


    Overall though people shouldn't give you a hard time because of it. Don't be afraid to tell people. Personally yea I'd be hard on someone who was just like "nope I refuse to talk to you people!!!" but if they said "hey man I'm deaf so joining vent wouldn't do any good". Sure lets go if you can perform your role fine on your own we can troubleshoot between pulls.
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    Last edited by Zarzak; 06-26-2014 at 04:54 AM.

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    I don't use voice chat, when I Raid in MMOs, The groups I raid with know there roles and what to do.
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    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Just use macros in a situation where you would usually be required to communicate but most importantly just focus on your role. As long as you know your job, the fight and it's mechanics then it shouldn't hold you back at all.

    I'd take a great player who can't communicate over an average one who doesn't shut up any day.
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    Last edited by TeganLaron; 06-26-2014 at 05:39 AM.

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    "... That deaf, dumb and blind kid SURE PLAYS MEAN PINBALL!!!" \o/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djarums View Post
    Looking to see if there are any other players around the server, and how you deal with possible raiding and being asked to get on voice programs.

    It's scary for me and I usually end up making some kind of dumb excuse... But im a good player so I know this wont work forever.
    I don't know why you think it's so scary honestly. I use Ventrilo with a group of people I have only known through Ventrilo for over 10 years (Since Final Fantasy 11 came out on Playstation 2) We all live in separate states but that hasn't hurt our friendship in the slightest. Some audio servers are nothing but grind junkies i'll admit I got lucky winding up with the server I am with now. All I can say to you is just give it a try. Maybe the people are bad and maybe they are not. You won't know where the train is going until you jump on it.
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