SMN a use for ifrit...

[kujowaltz]

Hey there, so I'm nearing 50 for my SMN and fully aware now of garuda's contagion benefits. However, I still see a use for Ifrit.

I've been playing around with the rotation of applying my 4 dots, rouse, spur, rs, then contagion and swiftcast summoning ifrit. When there is AOE I raise radiant shield. Once the contagion dots are down, I reapply dots giving me another 18 seconds with Ifrit before Bio is up. I start reapplying my dots, swiftcasting garuda in the Bio cooldown. Once I finish Miasma 2 (all 4 are up), I use contagion again. Thoughts?

Keeping in mind, this is for optimal and extended burn phases.

Radiant shield is not for countering direct attacks imo, its for countering indirect aoe's while fighting near the mob, and it frustrates me when people trash radiant shield. Also, why not have Ifrit up during small trash mobs? The bonus 20 seconds contagion provides won't matter if the mob dies in 15 seconds

[Dwill]

This is useful for really short fights because Swiftcasting Summons like that is gonna hit your MP pool extremely hard.

Ifrit has uses on encounters where Contagion is gonna be wasted, (things dying too fast, lots of phase changes, E.G: Last boss of Brayfllox HM) and where movement is minimal.

[kujowaltz]

yeah exactly...it's not useful all the time but there are a reasonable amount of instances that it is. I'm just sick of ilvl 100 players lecturing that I should never use Ifrit and to stick with Garuda all the time. It's lazy. Hell you could try it in t2....maybe it would give that extra push during enrage? People need to ease up on ol' Ifrit

[Danbo05]

yeah exactly...it's not useful all the time but there are a reasonable amount of instances that it is. I'm just sick of ilvl 100 players lecturing that I should never use Ifrit and to stick with Garuda all the time. It's lazy. Hell you could try it in t2....maybe it would give that extra push during enrage? People need to ease up on ol' Ifrit

Actually in T2, it'd be more preferrable to use Titan Egi because its the more durable of the 2, and won't drop like a fly 10 seconds into the fight.

[kujowaltz]

Actually in T2, it'd be more preferrable to use Titan Egi because its the more durable of the 2, and won't drop like a fly 10 seconds into the fight.

Mmmmmmmm makes sense....I'm still trying to switch out of my BLM mindframe

[Ardan]

I have never been in a situation where even Garuda would get killed during the immense amount of AoE damage that's going. She should last fine as long as the healers are competently spamming their AoE heals to keep everyone alive, Garuda included.

[Danbo05]

I have never been in a situation where even Garuda would get killed during the immense amount of AoE damage that's going. She should last fine as long as the healers are competently spamming their AoE heals to keep everyone alive, Garuda included.

AOE heals won't hit pets, with the exception being Scholars and their personal fairies. Even then, only reason Eos/Selene survive ever survive because they're constantly healing themselves with Embrace. Other than that Ifrit and Garuda gets creamed in T2, due to the fact that they only pop up in their Summoner's party list. Its asking alot out of your healers' mp to spam AOE heals and occasionally healing your pet at the same time.

[Dwill]

Garuda should survive easily in T2 if healers are doing their jobs.

[Ardan]

AOE heals won't hit pets, with the exception being Scholars and their personal fairies. Even then, only reason Eos/Selene survive ever survive because they're constantly healing themselves with Embrace. Other than that Ifrit and Garuda gets creamed in T2, due to the fact that they only pop up in their Summoner's party list. Its asking alot out of your healers' mp to spam AOE heals and occasionally healing your pet at the same time.

This is definitely not true. All AoE heals hit pets. Spells like Protect on the other hand...

[Dwill]

AOE heals won't hit pets, with the exception being Scholars and their personal fairies. Even then, only reason Eos/Selene survive ever survive because they're constantly healing themselves with Embrace. Other than that Ifrit and Garuda gets creamed in T2, due to the fact that they only pop up in their Summoner's party list. Its asking alot out of your healers' mp to spam AOE heals and occasionally healing your pet at the same time.

Incorrect

This is definitely not true. All AoE heals hit pets. Spells like Protect on the other hand...

Correct. The summoner can even see the Galvanize Buff from Succor and the Regen from Medica II on Garuda/Ifrit in the party list.