FFXIV ECONOMICS 101

[TheCurls]

Or how I see it. I have a sadistic pleasure watching the market crash because of the stuff I did. I LOVE watching people whine and complain about undercutting them in Mor Dhona even though they were clearly overpricing the material or whatever I'm crafting. It gives me great pleasure knowing I made money and you didn't. If someone undercuts me kudos to them. I'll buy it and sell it to a higher price

None of those other things are the actual reason people do it. This one is. Now, you might think you're upsetting me (I know you're upsetting other people), but I'm not a market hound. I'm just pointing out that it's silly to do things the way you, and other people do them.

But it's okay. Keep trolling the market. I'm glad it makes you happy to piss people off. Your life must be fantastic.

[kidvideo]

But it's okay. Keep trolling the market. I'm glad it makes you happy to piss people off. Your life must be fantastic.

Ok, this is crazy talk. I really doubt anyone is true trolling here. If anyone is it's rare/ex.

This is common sense. I have something I want to sell. I see X of the same item on the marketboard. I sell mine at X - X so that it moves.

The complainers take it so personal... with all the name calling & harrassing tells & forum posts...

Meanwhile, back at the market board... my retainer has some gil for me.

[kidvideo]

Occupy Eorzea ! Down with price fixing!

Economy crash or riot! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[NinjaTaru72]

I undercut this all the time. Usually things my retainer brings me, usually by a good amount. Why? Cuz I can. Cuz it pisses people off. Cuz I just don't care? Cuz I'm still making money, more than selling it to a vendor, and still at a decent speed.

I just don't care if it makes others upset. It actually kind of amuses me when people get angry that I sold that lvl 50 gear for 10k less. Amuses me more when I throw something up for like 5k lower just to sell it, and I come back an hour later and see 5 more under cutting. Mine by 2-5k. Lol. Just means my ways are getting to people XD

Though in hopes of meeting someone like the op, I wait for the day I get an angry tell from some crafter lol.

[ClaireAbigail]

But it's okay. Keep trolling the market. I'm glad it makes you happy to piss people off. Your life must be fantastic.

Yup life's fantastic and I'm not trying to piss you off please don't flatter yourself I'm just saying how it is. And do you feel bad if you set your price lower than the other competition? Here's how I see it: I made money. The other didn't. Ah well. Or the other made money, I didn't ah well. That's how free market works.

[Moqi]

lol do people really think we undercut to piss people off... wtf

If I undercut by a lot, it's because I think everyone else is asking for too much. Especially if it's a lvl 1-30 item, a newbie may not have much gil but still need to gear up, so I won't go over a certain price.

[Nephera]

If y'all wanna price fix and collude then make a trade linkshell and do it with a bunch of other vendors. Buy out anyone that tries to undercut you and repost their product at an inflated price. Be the bad guy.

Don't expect everyone else to be complicit in your price fixing just by whining on the forums.

[ClaireAbigail]

I say just ignore the whiners and let them cry.

If you're making money, no matter how(as long as it legal), keep on doing what you're doing. If anyone sends you a "nasty" telling you to stop just blist or laugh at them.

[IndigoHawk]

Actually OP, it's important to realize FFXIV does not have a crafting economy, except for high end items. It has a craft leveling economy.

If you are crafting to level up, then the products are waste. They have no value. You will sell and undercut for any amount to recover losses.

If an item costs 3k in materials, and you can sell it for 2k, you are not losing 1k. You are spending 1k to increase your crafting skills.

If you are trying to run a crafting business, then you must sell for greater than 3k. But if you are trying to sell for 4k to run a business, you cannot compete with people who are selling for 2k to level up.

So, don't get mad at people who undercut. They are in the market for different reasons than you are.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

my unit price is higher than my stack price, so, its not that i undercut prices, i always put 1 unit and a stack, 1 unit and a stack, because players some times just need 1 and thats it and some players need a full stack, so they save like 500gil each piece if they buy a full stack, i mean, thats the way i usually do this, also a put 10 units on sale 100gil less than the cost of 1 unit, so they are saving