I hate CON post 1:18

[Kinseykinz]

I am a rank 50 CON (my thm is currently 39) Did rank 45 raid today and I did not have huge MP issues nor did the other mages. Oh and I wasn't forced to only be a 'Healer' I nuked some too in the dungeon when MP was good. We communicated, used MP conserving and gaining abilities, and played our jobs.

It's a new change, and yes, if you don't watch your MP you can get into trouble SUPER-quick. But really, you shouldn't be able to heal a whole party for the same cost as healing one player. That was a huge problem with the game mechanics. Just like being able to AOE nuke everything is/was a huge problem. Keep in mind, the way parties play in general needs to change. For instance, Tanks and DD's can't just charge in expecting buffs to happen when mob is already engaged and everyone should attempt to equip some version of raise (it's only rank 14 for a reason). And crowd control is a MUST. It will just take us all some time to learn how to play with new MP pool. I understand people being uncomfortable with changes, but these really are for the better AND make way more sense in the long haul.


Also, so far I've had no trouble soloing leves as either my CON or my THM. When people say they took away the 'solo-abilities for Mages' do you mean "We can't kill mobs like the Dodore by ourselves anymore" or "Dude, that normal mob that other classes can handle solo just ate me?" Because if it was the former, yeah, you were never supposed to be able to do that...they fixed a loophole/game development error...if it's the latter, you either need to adjust your stats, your spells or admit you just don't know how to play your job that well.

[Punainen]

I am a rank 50 CON (my thm is currently 39) Did rank 45 raid today and I did not have huge MP issues nor did the other mages. Oh and I wasn't forced to only be a 'Healer' I nuked some too in the dungeon when MP was good. We communicated, used MP conserving and gaining abilities, and played our jobs.

It's a new change, and yes, if you don't watch your MP you can get into trouble SUPER-quick. But really, you shouldn't be able to heal a whole party for the same cost as healing one player. That was a huge problem with the game mechanics. Just like being able to AOE nuke everything is/was a huge problem. Keep in mind, the way parties play in general needs to change. For instance, Tanks and DD's can't just charge in expecting buffs to happen when mob is already engaged and everyone should attempt to equip some version of raise (it's only rank 14 for a reason). And crowd control is a MUST. It will just take us all some time to learn how to play with new MP pool. I understand people being uncomfortable with changes, but these really are for the better AND make way more sense in the long haul.


Also, so far I've had no trouble soloing leves as either my CON or my THM. When people say they took away the 'solo-abilities for Mages' do you mean "We can't kill mobs like the Dodore by ourselves anymore" or "Dude, that normal mob that other classes can handle solo just ate me?" Because if it was the former, yeah, you were never supposed to be able to do that...they fixed a loophole/game development error...if it's the latter, you either need to adjust your stats, your spells or admit you just don't know how to play your job that well.

You must have had a BUNCH of mages in your party...

[Kinseykinz]

You must have had a BUNCH of mages in your party...

on first run we had 7/8 (lancer dc'd upon entering dungeon) We had 2 Glds, 2 Cons, 1 THM, 1 PUG and and 1 Archer. But ranged attackers also fair better in this raid overall when it comes to strategy esp. against Ogre. So 3/8 intending to go on run were mages. 3/7 that made it into dungeon without d/c.

On second run same grouping except that time I dc/d out halfway through

[DivineAyumi]

I am a rank 50 CON (my thm is currently 39) Did rank 45 raid today and I did not have huge MP issues nor did the other mages.......

You said all I had to say to this tread
People just need to adapt and change their way of playing.
The game is no longer the "rush and kill anything you see" - mode anymore... actually, it still is... but not so much like before.
People needs to learn their roles (jobs) and actually play a DD, Tank, Debuffer, etc properly.

[Aeyis]

You said all I had to say to this tread
People just need to adapt and change their way of playing.
The game is no longer the "rush and kill anything you see" - mode anymore... actually, it still is... but not so much like before.
People needs to learn their roles (jobs) and actually play a DD, Tank, Debuffer, etc properly.

What roles? This is the armory system we're talking about~