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    Transpose: think about it as a cost-free Blizzard 1 that will grant you a stack of Umbral Ice GUARANTEE to recover your mana.

    1/Use it when:

    -You messed up your rotation and don't have enough mana to cast Blizzard 3.
    -After Flare, you will have no Mana to cast Blizzard 3, use.
    -When you have no time to sit still and cast B3, and in need of recover of mana, use. It is faster than cast Blizzard 3 after you stop moving.
    -When there is no more mobs around for you to cast B3 and you want mana, use.

    2/Don't use it when:

    -You don't have any stack of Astral Fire on you.

    Simple and easy !!!!

    I forgot if you would have B3 at this lv or not but most likely is a no. And if that is the case, that is why people have been suggesting you to use Transpose because it is quicker and more mana efficiency than casting two B1.
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    Last edited by LionKing; 06-25-2014 at 08:24 AM.

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    Transpose isn't really necessary except as a last resort if you are micro-managing your MP. At your level, I would Fire-1 until I only had enough MP left to cast Blizzard. I'd then cast Blizzard to switch from fire to ice and start mana regen and then use Thunder as a filler spell until your MP regenerated enough for you to switch back to Fire--rinse and repeat. It gets really fun when you get Fire III and Blizzard III cuz you essentially have infinite mana lol IF you're utilizing your rotations properly. So... at Lvl 30, my single rotation looks like this:

    Thunder II -> Fire 1 (until enough MP to just cast Blizzard) -> Blizzard -> Thunder II (Or Thunder 1, depends on how well it ticks with your regen) -> Rinse & Repeat

    If you need to, you can utilize Swiftcast to get Blizzard out faster depending on your situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LanceValiant View Post
    Transpose isn't really necessary except as a last resort if you are micro-managing your MP. At your level, I would Fire-1 until I only had enough MP left to cast Blizzard. I'd then cast Blizzard to switch from fire to ice and start mana regen and then use Thunder as a filler spell until your MP regenerated enough for you to switch back to Fire--rinse and repeat. It gets really fun when you get Fire III and Blizzard III cuz you essentially have infinite mana lol IF you're utilizing your rotations properly. So... at Lvl 30, my single rotation looks like this:
    Thunder II -> Fire 1 (until enough MP to just cast Blizzard) -> Blizzard -> Thunder II (Or Thunder 1, depends on how well it ticks with your regen) -> Rinse & Repeat

    If you need to, you can utilize Swiftcast to get Blizzard out faster depending on your situation.
    This to an extent. At this level iirc, transpose is still effective in two ways.
    1. Can go to U-Ice right away to start your ticks while you cast T I/II and or scathe to return to DPSing
    2. (to me more optimal) After you gain mp to return to DPSing, transpose before your Fire cast to put you in A-Fire for the (be it small) DPS boost of that state.

    Later in the game you will see BLM's either using BlizzIII for mana regen and the transpose to go back to fire for small dps boost, or not even using BlizzIII but transpose to stay in fire, refresh dots and scathe to FIREIII>Fire spam. It's also great for AOE rotations with flare.

    Play with it till you find the best personal use for it. It is a handy tool.

    Also for a small dps boost, macro scathe at the end of either your blizzards or thunders or both ^^, instant cast and a little dps boost. However it does use the GCD so experiement with it. I have it macro'd to my BlizzIII so my casts are BlizzIII >immediate Scathe > Thunder II > Transpose > Fire III bla bla

    Syn
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    Remember that he doesn't get Blizzard 3 until 34, so if he's still 30ish, he won't want to be casting any ice spells while in AF. Transpose should always be used prior to 34 since the alternative is to erase your AF without swapping it for UI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    Remember that he doesn't get Blizzard 3 until 34, so if he's still 30ish, he won't want to be casting any ice spells while in AF. Transpose should always be used prior to 34 since the alternative is to erase your AF without swapping it for UI.
    Exactly. If you're in AF and cast Blizzard 1, it will remove AF and you'll have no buffs. Mana regeneration is extremely slow at this point. You'd have to cast another Blizzard in order to get UI. This takes 2 GCDs (about 5s), whereas Transpose would get you into UI immediately. It's best to minimize the amount of time that you're in your UI phase.

    Also, you can use Transpose if you're in AF when the fight ends. This way, you'll be at full mana for the next fight. Unless of course the next fight is only a few seconds away.
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    Ca'ex Ketsu
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    Current single target DPS is as States
    Thunder 2 > Fire3 > fire > Fire > Fire (use firestarter procs whenever they come up) > Fire > Blizzard 3 > Thunder 2 (if you didnt have thundercloud proc) (blizzard (if you didnt get your two mp ticks) Fire 3 > Rpeat process base of situation.

    Its a simple rotation that all BLM will use to bringg out their damage. Make sure to level Archer to atleast 34 for Qualling strikes and also Raging strikes.

    BLM in itself until 2.3 a simple roation DPS class hopefully the changed in 2 weeks will shed some light on a better rotation for DPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synestr View Post
    Later in the game you will see BLM's either using BlizzIII for mana regen and the transpose to go back to fire for small dps boost, or not even using BlizzIII but transpose to stay in fire, refresh dots and scathe to FIREIII>Fire spam. It's also great for AOE rotations with flare.
    Seeing as Fire III has a super quick cast time in UI3 (and will put you in AF3 instead of AF1) I don't see how Transpose is any kind of DPS boost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defenlok View Post
    Ok makes sense...so my questions is what is the best load out/rotation at low levels?
    actually the best Single Target Rotation at low levels is as follows:

    From as far away as possible while still being within range: Blizzard I > Thunder I or II > Fire I until low MP > Transpose > Blizard I until high MP > Fire I until dead. Simple.

    They actually basically tell you this in the Thaumaturge Questline...
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    Last edited by Tharian; 06-30-2014 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringabell View Post
    Seeing as Fire III has a super quick cast time in UI3 (and will put you in AF3 instead of AF1) I don't see how Transpose is any kind of DPS boost.
    Being in AF1 gives you the DPS boost to your fire spells, as we all know. It's not huge by any means, but it is a boost. Casting FireIII in UI3 will produce less dmg than if cast in AF1, even at only one stack. It's just the way it is. The info is out there in some BLM "guides" and in these forums as well.

    Snippit:
    - "Use Thundercloud and Firestarter procs as they occur (use Thunder 3 for Thundercloud). If you don't have Convert up, then skip the Flare and go straight into Bliz 3. If you get a Firestarter Proc on the last Fire in the cycle, then you want to sit on the proc through your Umbral Ice phase (you should already be halfway through your Bliz3 before the proc even registers) and Transpose once your mana is full so that the Fire 3 hits with at least Astral 1 for some additional damage instead of wasting it in Umbral 3." - Sylvrdragon

    Above is from this guide.

    Really for us, it is about dealing as much as we can the best possible way we can. We are a RNG type dps. Our crits rely on the RNG, our procs and spell dmg the same.

    Syn
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    Last edited by Synestr; 07-07-2014 at 05:18 PM.

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