Yeah, the L2/R2 thing is great, but if you were on R2 and meant to get the L2 bar, and you're running from muscle memory for speed, you can definitely zig when you should have zagged. Also, I have different classes, so my BRD needs things different from my WHM, etc. Yes, I know I can drag things in and out too, and I've got to the point that I set up bars depending on the task. Wish that hot bar switched when you change classes like bars 1-4. Be that as it may, thanks for the info. I found that it worked best if I ran into the faces of a mob and hit flash then immediately tomahawk and mark the first target(s). Cont'd next post due to characters.