SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Kensei]

In Letter from the Producer XIV Yoshi dedicated a section of it to discuss ranking up. I will quote parts of it.

Ever since I posted on the forums, we’ve been receiving feedback from players worrying about whether or not we’re going to be nerfing the ranking up process. The simple and emphatic answer to this, just as I posted in the forums, is no.

Well Yoshi it was nerfed in every single way. Killing mobs gives less SP, Behest gives less SP and it can't be done back to back, guildleves give far less SP per kill and the final bonus is pathetic. What the heck is the use of Guardians Favor? I was getting 83 SP per kill and it increased to maybe 89 SP with favor and the final bonus was unaffected. I tried for a while with a party and the best we were getting was 340 SP with mobs 10 ranks higher than us, the problem was that every 3 kills our CON needed an MP break because of the outrageous MP cost increases.

I don’t want there to be a huge loss of skill points imposed for dying, or for players to have to grind 5–6 hours a day for 8 months to get to the high ranks.

Well, Yoshi, with the current state of SP gains it may not be for 8 months but it will certainly take 6+ hours a day of mindless grinding to make progress a decent pace now from 30s onward.

I do think ranking up should take longer in MMOs than in non-MMOs, but I plan to make the process both possible and enjoyable for players willing to invest the time, even if they’re solo, and even by doing quests and guildleves.

Are you serious? You just nerfed SP gains which you said you wouldn't do, we are now forced to grind to make decent progress for hours which you also said you wouldn't do and I already discussed leves' pathetic excuse of SP. As for quests they would have been viable if there were more than 5 and it would be more enjoyable if a quest in Gridania didn't sent me to Coerthas and back for a grand total of 1,700 Skill Points. I could get much more grinding in the same amount of time it takes to make that walk.

Why was this done? Are you really thinking that slowing ranking up to a crawl will retain population? Because this sort of thing is exactly what made everyone quit. Considering the state the game was slowly recovering from I would think this was the last thing they would consider doing.

[alexi14]

I agree 100%. Progression is the only thing that keeps your players here Yoshi. It certainly isn't the "fun" aspect of it. We stay so we can progress now, and enjoy the game when it's fixed. But now we can't even progress.

[Preypacer]

I agree 100%. Progression is the only thing that keeps your players here Yoshi. It certainly isn't the "fun" aspect of it. We stay so we can progress now, and enjoy the game when it's fixed. But now we can't even progress.

My hyperbole meter just red-lined.

[SAMINUS]

Man I couldn't even log on yesterday. now after hearing how bad things are, I kinda don't want to now.

[Forbin]

Man I couldn't even log on yesterday. now after hearing how bad things are, I kinda don't want to now.

things aren't bad.. they were WAY to easy before.. kids with every job to Lv50 in less than a year is a JOKE...

[Noir]

things aren't bad.. they were WAY to easy before.. kids with every job to Lv50 in less than a year is a JOKE...

You mean botters right? Us legit are far away from getting lvl 50 in all classes.

[Abriael]

You mean botters right? Us legit are far away from getting lvl 50 in all classes.

Love when envious people accuse those that simply have more free time of unlegit conduct.

[Noir]

Love when envious people accuse those that simply have more free time of unlegit conduct.

If you were offended, guess that it explain a lot. Yeah, learn some math. Unless you play 24/7 and have people providing mats shards 24/7 and you click 60.000 times each class to get to lvl 50. You can't get to lvl 50 in all classes in less than a year without some form of cheat. And I forgot kill 30.000 mobs for each class. Yeah, your free time doesn't add up my friend. We americans are lazy, if you were Chinese and living in a LAN I would believe you, just maybe.

[Xmbei]

You mean botters right? Us legit are far away from getting lvl 50 in all classes.

ah again with your name calling... folks because Noir said so everyone that is r50 is a botter and everyone in a party/ls/clan/guild is an RMTer. Must be true because Noir said it!

[Abriael]

Or maybe you should try more stars or higher level leves? because you know, sane people try different things before going to complain on forums.
(this of course without even mentioning the SP given by quests, that before gave none).

SP wasn't nerfed. You're just doing it wrong, and going around calling people liars like a little drama queen doesn't help your cause.

PS: if your con needs a break every 3 mobs, then you should complain at your con. Looks like he isn't using the proper mana regen skills and he simply can't administer his mana.