SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Bled]

I wouldn't call 1.18 the fix.. id call it the new foundation.

Unless you have a R50 hiding somewhere Kensei i have to ask, have you even done all the instances? not trying to be a di** but how can you judge the content if you haven't even played through it. Remember Yoshi said after patch 1.18 (the foundation) the patches would begin to come more quickly and flow more smoothly. Based on that i would like to think that more and more content will be steadily flowing in along with refinements to existing systems.

This is the first overhaul patch and it is now only the second day, chill out people.

Edit: I guess technically its the third day here O.o

[Kensei]

I wouldn't call 1.18 the fix.. id call it the new foundation.

Unless you have a R50 hiding somewhere Kensei i have to ask, have you even done all the instances? not trying to be a di** but how can you judge the content if you haven't even played through it. Remember Yoshi said after patch 1.18 (the foundation) the patches would begin to come more quickly and flow more smoothly. Based on that i would like to think that more and more content will be steadily flowing in along with refinements to existing systems.

This is the first overhaul patch and it is now only the second day, chill out people.

Edit: I guess technically its the third day here O.o

There is no question improvements will/should come with future patch released. But objectively look at what was added and how it was implemented you decide if there is a ton more to do now than pre-patch. What can't be denied is the massive nerf to progression. I just don't see the reasoning.

And before someone comes up with the "now you have to work, it will feel like an achievement" BS. The only achievement would be that instead of grinding for 4 hours now you have to grind for 12 for the same result. I don't know how that would be something to brag about.

[Bled]

There is no question improvements will/should come with future patch released. But objectively look at what was added and how it was implemented you decide if there is a ton more to do now than pre-patch. What can't be denied is the massive nerf to progression. I just don't see the reasoning.

And before someone comes up with the "now you have to work, it will feel like an achievement" BS. The only achievement would be that instead of grinding for 4 hours now you have to grind for 12 for the same result. I don't know how that would be something to brag about.

Yes there is not a HUGE amount of content but there is plenty to keep me interested at least till the next patch. Grinding is what you do in MMORPG's, as of right now it can not be avoided other than if SE handed you a R50 geared and ready for endgame. One day maybe there will be a hit MMORPG that has 0 grinding but for now to assume otherwise is foolish.

I do not buy into the SP being super nerfed line of thinking, you need to explore new ways of leveling outside of besiege and leves, both were nerfed for that exact reason. Like i said earlier i was soloing for 200-300SP random mobs near Silver bazaar with unsettling ease.

[Kensei]

Yes there is not a HUGE amount of content but there is plenty to keep me interested at least till the next patch. Grinding is what you do in MMORPG's, as of right now it can not be avoided other than if SE handed you a R50 geared and ready for endgame. One day maybe there will be a hit MMORPG that has 0 grinding but for now to assume otherwise is foolish.

I do not buy into the SP being super nerfed line of thinking, you need to explore new ways of leveling outside of besiege and leves, both were nerfed for that exact reason. Like i said earlier i was soloing for 200-300SP random mobs near Silver bazaar with unsettling ease.

Behest reduced the grinding in a surprisingly effective manner. It provided a tolerable pace of progression.

As for your experience with decent SP, I don't know how much experience you have with the game but I can tell you 300 SP is very little and I considered that a waste of time pre-patch.

[SuzakuCMX]

Behest reduced the grinding in a surprisingly effective manner. It provided a tolerable pace of progression.

As for your experience with decent SP, I don't know how much experience you have with the game but I can tell you 300 SP is very little and I considered that a waste of time pre-patch.

Nobody in their right mind considered 300 SP a waste of time pre-patch. People were considering 100-200 SP per mob a good amount pre-patch. Just not for leves.

Also behests are/were grinds with a title attached.

[Kensei]

Nobody in their right mind considered 300 SP a waste of time pre-patch. People were considering 100-200 SP per mob a good amount pre-patch. Just not for leves.

Also behests are/were grinds with a title attached.

I don't know what people you were talking with. I made about 10-13,000 SP per behest in about 12-15 minutes. Try to get that with post-patch grinding. And no, it wasn't the same as grinding, it was more of an extended leve were mobs gave much increased SP and were relatively weaker than their world roaming counterparts.

[SuzakuCMX]

I don't know what people you were talking with. I made about 10-13,000 SP per behest in about 12-15 minutes. Try to get that with post-patch grinding. And no, it wasn't the same as grinding, it was more of an extended leve were mobs gave much increased SP and were relatively weaker than their world roaming counterparts.

Leves are also grinds. Pretty titles don't change anything. Also I was talking about outside of leves/behests, which is also what the person you quoted was talking about.

[Firon]

I don't know what people you were talking with. I made about 10-13,000 SP per behest in about 12-15 minutes. Try to get that with post-patch grinding. And no, it wasn't the same as grinding, it was more of an extended leve were mobs gave much increased SP and were relatively weaker than their world roaming counterparts.

Thats bs behest never gave no damn 13k lol'

even at broken water you got only like 7k per behest

[Raze]

I made about 10-13,000 SP per behest in about 12-15 minutes.

LOLLLL Yeah okay sure