SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[TheVedis]

What solution are you giving me that makes behest now give as much sp/hour as it did before the patch? That's the point. The reason I use behest as the one point is because it was the best sp/hour before the patch and nothing right now gives comparable gains. If you think I'm close minded then why are you wasting your time in my thread?

Those who are going through the same know exactly what I mean. Those of you liking the changes go enjoy it. I hope you have lots of fun!

the solution is to do something other then behest

is that so hard to understand?


if you dont want to do something else, thats on you, not SE.


also what if i pointed out you are now getting the same SP you got pre SP changes? so guess what, your getting SP like you used to in behest when it was popular back then too!

so they didnt really nerf behest, they put it back to how it was(didnt think of that now did you?)

[Kensei]

the solution is to do something other then behest

is that so hard to understand?


if you dont want to do something else, thats on you, not SE.


also what if i pointed out you are now getting the same SP you got pre SP changes? so guess what, your getting SP like you used to in behest when it was popular back then too!

so they didnt really nerf behest, they put it back to how it was(didnt think of that now did you?)

I would gladly try anything that gives the same sp/hour behest did pre-patch. But guess what? It doesn't exist after the patch.

Behest wasn't nerfed? Behest was probably the biggest SP nerf of them all. If they put it the way it was it was they still nerfed from what it was in 1.17c. So Yoshi lied.

[Abriael]

What solution are you giving me that makes behest now give as much sp/hour as it did before the patch? That's the point.

Do other things (like grinding parties) that give BETTER experience than that. The fact is that people have been giving you the solution for a while, and you just refuse to listen, because it completely invalidates your point, making you the liar.

[Starlord]

Do other things (like grinding parties) that give BETTER experience than that. The fact is that people have been giving you the solution for a while, and you just refuse to listen, because it completely invalidates your point, making you the liar.

Not to Mention Grinding is " Continuous" Behest and leve's are not that's why Grind partyies will always dish out the best sp by the time you reach behest time or leve time

[TirionCrey]

What solution are you giving me that makes behest now give as much sp/hour as it did before the patch? That's the point. The reason I use behest as the one point is because it was the best sp/hour before the patch and nothing right now gives comparable gains. If you think I'm close minded then why are you wasting your time in my thread?

Those who are going through the same know exactly what I mean. Those of you liking the changes go enjoy it. I hope you have lots of fun!

You really are deaf, aren't you? Behest NEVER has been the best SP/hour, you repeating that over and over doesn't make it true. Best Sp/hour has always been grinding on regular mobs. The fact that behest was easy to join and didn't take much attention made it a "convenient" way to grind, not the best. Wait for people to figure out grind spots for all Rank ranges and you will see that grinding on regular mobs is better sp/hour than behest ever was. Cause right now the only rank range people cared about finding grind spots was R 40+ and grinding on mobs at 40+ gave you 300SP per mob w/o any downtime. You could grind mobs the whole 60minutes so go figure what kind of SP/hour that was...

[Kensei]

You really are deaf, aren't you? Behest NEVER has been the best SP/hour, you repeating that over and over doesn't make it true. Best Sp/hour has always been grinding on regular mobs. The fact that behest was easy to join and didn't take much attention made it a "convenient" way to grind, not the best. Wait for people to figure out grind spots for all Rank ranges and you will see that grinding on regular mobs is better sp/hour than behest ever was. Cause right now the only rank range people cared about finding grind spots was R 40+ and grinding on mobs at 40+ gave you 300SP per mob w/o any downtime. You could grind mobs the whole 60minutes so go figure what kind of SP/hour that was...

That's your own personal experience. The reason I'm not replying to those claiming behest was not the best sp/hour is because they are all full of ****.

Most people posting here now have no interest in discussing the issue and are now looking for ways to bash me or prove me wrong. But hey it's their time and they can use it how they like.

[Abriael]

It really is sad to see some of you defending this game.. presumably because the only thing you have to gain from it is a good game image to shop around to your friends or others.

"bwaaaaah they are disagreeing with me! I'm sad! I'm going to cry to mommy!"

Here's a direct translation of your post in picture form:
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.co...9493659604.jpg

[Rinsui]

Then I'm very glad for those of you having the time of your lives. Have fun!

That's the first reasonable comment from you on 41 pages.
Thank you. Seems not all is lost after all!

[Rinsui]

You say grind wasn't affected but that is not the point. Grind now doesn't give the same sp/hour that behest did. The only way he wouldn't have lied was if grinding or the other ways to get SP gave us the same sp/hour that behest did.

Behest neither is, nor ever was the best SP/hour. Just: Never.
Even normal, simple raptor-grinding is better SP/hour than Behest?

And against leve-linking Behest failed by a factor of... around 4?

Dammit, are you deaf?

[Exevier]

Wow. This thread's pretty hostile.

I've got to say, though, I do agree that ranking up has been pretty severely nerfed, at least to an extent (though I wouldn't go so far as to call Yoshi-P a liar). I've been trying all the methods I can think of to gain SP.

Leves don't even come close to cutting it any more, of course. I haven't done a post-patch Behest yet, but I hear its rewards have been reduced.

Solo grinding's out, as I'm typically getting less than 100 SP on higher level mobs. I haven't gotten to try party grinding, but supposedly the upcoming enemy redistribution is going to make that viable. Not to mention, the seek invite function is still pretty goofy and has been going unused, at least on my server.

I'm wondering if I'm not seeing any group play due to the fact that my server has a low population, but who knows. And, given, this is all from my perspective on my rank 18 Lancer, but I have yet to find any form of SP gain that doesn't inch along with minimal progress.