SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Victor]

Abriael has anger issues (p*-*)p

[Hikozaemon]

We're doing an SP test party for leves at this very moment. The bonuses are awesome! If you pop the leve and whoever links it gets the same bonus as the person who pops it. I just got a bonus of over 6k SP just finishing a leve at Broken Water with a full party. High SP can be done and it's actually better than the old system if you know how to do it right.

i did the BW3 w/ full leve links where we gettin 320 exp a mob(use to be 900+a mob) when we finished which we did fast we got a whooping 3700sp your playing a different game than i am.

[Pulseczar]

hmmm dunno. That is what we got. We are also in a 5-level range.

What was your bonus SP at the end?

[alexi14]

The question is, does Yoshi-P think our current situation is worth fixing soon, or another item to add to his list. I know we have to be patient, but at least give us back our behest or leves so we can do SOMETHING while we wait for the updates. At this point, it's not even worth logging in...

I never thought I'd say this, but I had more fun pre 1.18...

[Fated]

I'm glad I decided to finish off a rank 50 class before the patch. I can wait on my next one until the devs are done with the "break this and buff that" game.

[Pulseczar]

Okay, we just finished "A Terrible Thirst". Full party, 7 leve-links, all within a 5-level range; and I got a bonus of 4,794 when the leve finished. I'd say that's pretty good.

[Abriael]

Apparently you are the one who was doing it wrong. I did no such thing and didn't know people did that until you just mentioned it. With 4 people linked we could get 1500 SP per kill in certain leves pre-patch. And besides everything apart from leves was nerfed too. Look at all the people with the same issue. Blind fanboy is blind.

"certain" very rare leves, which involved 3 in broken water, one in horizon, and one each in three level 30 spots.

Which means that unless you exploited the fail->redo method, there's absolutely no way you regularly gained 15k a leve, not even with full links.

As suede confirmed, fast experience is very possible, and now you don't even need to exploit.

[alexi14]

I'm glad I decided to finish off a rank 50 class before the patch. I can wait on my next one until the devs are done with the "break this and buff that" game.

Looking back, I wish I just focused on one class. I got all my jobs to like 25+ because I was confident that I could party grind. Now I find out I can't even behest, OR leve. My confidence in SE just went down like 10 notches -.-

[Kensei]

The question is, does Yoshi-P think our current situation is worth fixing soon, or another item to add to his list. I know we have to be patient, but at least give us back our behest or leves so we can do SOMETHING while we wait for the updates. At this point, it's not even worth logging in...

I never thought I'd say this, but I had more fun pre 1.18...

This is very sad to say but I had more fun pre-patch too. The dungeon is underwhelming, companies have like 4 quest, and like we and many are saying there's no way to rank up in any viable way. Behest worked and I would have thought they would improve it. Allow more people at the same time, maybe start every 20 minutes instead of 30 etc. I really hope they patch behest to the way it was or boost SP for parties at the very least.

[Reika]

Tho I'm sure we weren't completely lied to, SP from guildleves is crap either solo or party. They did say the bonus sp from monster kills was going away, and leve links will give less of a bonus. However, they should have said how much bonus SP at the end you would receive. He did say however that leves would be 'Good' for a person that doesnt have much time in the day and needs to go solo. However again, SP solo and under the current system which makes soloing harder than before, sucks balls.

As I see it now, SP solo is the same as doing a local leve (probably less actually). SP grouped is not anywhere near pre-patch. Getting 320 sp and 3700 sp on BW leve with 7 links is bad enough, But knowing you probably wont get 7 links again is worse, since now we complete leves, we dont fail them. Would probably be better off not linking the leves at all, but then that will take way too much time.