SP nerfed. We were lied to.

[Lokiie1984]

So far i like alot of what i see on the patch, the auto attack is weird but other wise it seems good. Except the SP, im rank 13 on my archer an finding it really hard to gain sp at a decent rate, of course i could go grind an im sure that would work just fine, but to me solo grinding is about as fun as drinking bleach. Pre patch i would do behests, hardly even touched leves, the reason being that i enjoyed that fifteen minute sit while waiting for the next behest. Being able to sit an talk with random people or those that leveled with it too made it alot of fun for me. The exp gain was also nice, and i agree it may have even been a lil too high. But as for now with the hour long wait i really think they should have kept the exp the same an just upped the wait to an hour. At least then maybe people would still do em, as it stands now most just ignore behests completely. Or at least in my level range.

I will also admit my experience may not be the same as every one, an it could even change alot if i ever find a LS that doesnt annoy the crap out of me.

[DeadRiser]

Why was this done? Are you really thinking that slowing ranking up to a crawl will retain population? Because this sort of thing is exactly what made everyone quit. Considering the state the game was slowly recovering from I would think this was the last thing they would consider doing.

No that isn't why everyone quit. The battle system was cumbersome and the WAY you gained SP would dumb down the way you fight. There wasn't much skill in the battle system, lots of disconnects... there is a LOT of different reasons people quit. I highly doubt it was because it was so "hard" to rank up.

Plus they need to make people stay longer in this game... what better way than to slow down the speed of ranking up a little?

[Atoli]

Plus they need to make people stay longer in this game... what better way than to slow down the speed of ranking up a little?

Slowing it down to 12 years to get to rank 50, as someone pointed out? Sounds a bit harsh to me..
But at least it's a safe way to get people pissed at you.
I'm not that far yet, but I'm not happy with these changes, either.
Quests may be a great way for ranking up in other games, which have tons of quests, but FFXIV hasn't.
So if it's so easy and even better than before to rank up, tell us some solid facts on how to do it.

[Xmbei]

Slowing it down to 12 years to get to rank 50, as someone pointed out? Sounds a bit harsh to me..
But at least it's a safe way to get people pissed at you.
I'm not that far yet, but I'm not happy with these changes, either.
Quests may be a great way for ranking up in other games, which have tons of quests, but FFXIV hasn't.
So if it's so easy and even better than before to rank up, tell us some solid facts on how to do it.

that was a calculation for all 18 jobs to 50.... Not just 1 unsure if you caught that... also that is if you as a player did nothing but leve's everyday and that is it... Trust me there is a lot to do, just people can't get out of the rutt they were conditioned to of: " OMG THEZE 6 LEVE"S ARE TEH BOMB MUST HAVE THESE LEVE'S ONRY 4 TEHZ PARTAZ!!! WUT THEY NERFED THEMZ?!?! ZOMGWTFBBQSAUCE!!!!!! I CAN'TZ THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE TO DU'S ANIES MOERZ MUZT COMPRAINZ!" When they could go oh sweet I have all these quests to do these dungeons to try and omfg look at all these new mob's and redistribution!!!! I can get some of my game friends I have made or find new ones in town to go find these mobs and kill them! because there is a greater/endless supply of them every 36 hours instead of 8....

edit: also want to point out what has already been, leve's are solo content now, and if partying do all the leve's you can not limit yourself to a select few because they had the "best return"

[Apollyon7]

that was a calculation for all 18 jobs to 50.... Not just 1 unsure if you caught that... also that is if you as a player did nothing but leve's everyday and that is it... Trust me there is a lot to do, just people can't get out of the rutt they were conditioned to of: " OMG THEZE 6 LEVE"S ARE TEH BOMB MUST HAVE THESE LEVE'S ONRY 4 TEHZ PARTAZ!!! WUT THEY NERFED THEMZ?!?! ZOMGWTFBBQSAUCE!!!!!! I CAN'TZ THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE TO DU'S ANIES MOERZ MUZT COMPRAINZ!" When they could go oh sweet I have all these quests to do these dungeons to try and omfg look at all these new mob's and redistribution!!!! I can get some of my game friends I have made or find new ones in town to go find these mobs and kill them! because there is a greater/endless supply of them every 36 hours instead of 8....

ok but if arent 45+ no dungeons at all... mobs there 1 shoot u.
plus if ppl want lvl up, let them lvl up... who doesnt want to lvl up, will choose what to do.
but if nerf leves, dont give us a seek party system that works good like in XI, how i can lvl up to do cool things ..i just can go take a walk and stop.

[Apollyon7]

mmm 600+ /kill Vs 60 /kill ... necrologos leves now sux bcz ends in 2-3 mins... is this slow down a little?
Leves are became USELESS...

and still no way to have adamn good "seek party" system or /sea all command...
they MUST fix those things...

<3 this game btw.

[Pyrix]

I can think of quite a few better ways. Slowing it down doesn't make them stay longer, it makes them leave.

[Platinumstorm]

I'm a pretty critical person of this game, but I don't think this is anything to get fussed up about. The entire game is being redone, this is just one rough step in the process. Things will get better from here. If you need to step away from the game because of lack of progress, then do it. I don't get the mad need to rush to 50 in a game where there is almost no content.

[Apollyon7]

Please 2 things only...
Agree.... leves nerfed too much... im an hardcore player... but i dont like waste my time for 1k sp in total...
Too much mp costs... and im mage class in my soul, know what to do in fight... but too much costs...
BUT more important!!!
Give us the sweet ,godly ,faster ,clear and perfect search system of FFXI.
Was so easy... logged in game, open menu click on seek party... got invites and sent invites... few minutes and the party was ready to go!
Now doesnt work this new useless system.... doesnt work at all.
Please fix those things. i wanna lvl up not die in town shoutin in the wind...

[alexi14]

Please 2 things only...
Agree.... leves nerfed too much... im an hardcore player... but i dont like waste my time for 1k sp in total...
Too much mp costs... and im mage class in my soul, know what to do in fight... but too much costs...
BUT more important!!!
Give us the sweet ,godly ,faster ,clear and perfect search system of FFXI.
Was so easy... logged in game, open menu click on seek party... got invites and sent invites... few minutes and the party was ready to go!
Now doesnt work this new useless system.... doesnt work at all.
Please fix those things. i wanna lvl up not die in town shoutin in the wind...

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