Tam-tara is such a hard dungeon.

[Yuki_Tokita]

If they can’t even run Tam-tara without Protect, then they have way bigger issues to deal with.

[Nicobo]

...a lvl 50 bard with some soldiery gear says "no protect?", I say no and the bard is like "what kind of dumb shit is that"...

I suspect the BRD(or the PT) didn't know Protect is WHM's ability if you just replied "no" for "no protect?" ^^;

[Kuroyasha]

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Yes Tamtara is an easy dungeon, but I was running it a few days ago as a level 50 tank but with all the level sync, I still need healing.
My white mage thought "hur dur im gonna spam cleric stance" and at on point I almost died because I was down to about 1% hp from him not healing me.
So yes, that protect actually saved me (along with the 1 cool down I could actually use).

If you don't want to do your job, and you act rude when people point this fact out, don't be surprised that they kick you.

Youre assuming that b/c your herp derp healer almost let you die that the OP is the same way. No. personally if I go sch i will cleric stance in tam tara, and i will keep the party alive. And if someone calls me out of my name(like they called the OP an idiot), rest assured I would not let them get away with it. And if in the end they vote-kick me like they did the op, ill just que again.

[EricCartmenez]

Haha! I bet money he would've proceeded to call me more names anyways if I explained nicely my rationale for not having protect. In fact, he blew up in my face already when I answered "no" to his "no protect?" question where he rudely responded with "what kind of dumb shit is that?" instead of..."why?". Instinctively, that told me he thinks he's God and his beliefs are law and justice. :P

And then they kicked YOU out. What about the guy that acted like that? Probably buddies who go through healers like McD's goes through cashiers. I've found a new respect for every class as I go through them. The strengths and weaknesses of which I was not aware come to light quickly. Tanking looks easy, right? Bang on something and flash once in a while. Shoot, I shield lob, flash, even show my butt crack to some of these guys and they go after the healer! Then as a MRD, I find out that I don't have as much flash because my MP is lower than GLA. Shoot, gotta make up for that. I need a middle finger move. It happens, and I have to suck it up and do my best. I see tanks throw protect all the time, now I know why. The ARC or BRD may not have been aware, and maybe the conversation could have gone differently, but if the first thing I say to you when we meet for the first time is, "What kind of a dumb shit are you?", we might not have a great relationship out of the gate.

[necrosis]

I bet this BRD is also one who ignores tank markings. Or if the tank isn't marking (like most times) they don't even use common sense and attack the same mob the tank is attacking.

How I target if no markings.
99% of the time the same one the tank is attacking. But if for some reason another mob is going down faster than the others I switch to that one even if its not the one the tank is beating on.

Most DPS make me wonder how they remember to even breathe.

[16bitBounty]

I heal all the time without protect. If they need any more than Eos before Halatali they're the ones having problems. I stay in cleric stance for most of the low dungeons, never lost a player because of it.

[MeiUshu]

someone care to explain to me how a 10% in low dongeon is nothing while 10 % in high dongeon is a lot?...10 % is still 10 %, wheather small or high is 10% damages less and HP are proportional to the level, in higher level 10 % is a bigger figure but not because it protects more, is because the basic figures are higher nothing else. So the importance of that 10 % is in essence the same eitehr in small or high it mitigates damages for 10 % and having a protect can be life saviour even if only to allow a healer to wake up because was falling asleep relying too much on Eos eh?

This reminds me of a joke, what is heavier 1kilo feather or 1kg iron

Also is one thing to be the only one to require healing because the others basically take no damages because well all sync (even if this is alien to me since you are sync is like you were down to low level figures yte is not exactly so) and being in a full starting players but healer. I had that happen to me healer was just not concentrate even if I said I was not used to tank and not geared enough for that dungeon, so were the others and I kept dying the healer said I was guilty..lol...some healers should requestion themselves really...same as in CT you dont have SS ? the answer was No I am too lazy to get it. That healer spend all her CT without SS from me...

Mei

[Kerberon]

someone care to explain to me how a 10% in low dongeon is nothing while 10 % in high dongeon is a lot?...10 % is still 10 %, wheather small or high is 10% damages less and HP are proportional to the level, in higher level 10 % is a bigger figure but not because it protects more, is because the basic figures are higher nothing else. So the importance of that 10 % is in essence the same eitehr in small or high it mitigates damages for 10 % and having a protect can be life saviour even if only to allow a healer to wake up because was falling asleep relying too much on Eos eh?

This reminds me of a joke, what is heavier 1kilo feather or 1kg iron

Also is one thing to be the only one to require healing because the others basically take no damages because well all sync (even if this is alien to me since you are sync is like you were down to low level figures yte is not exactly so) and being in a full starting players but healer. I had that happen to me healer was just not concentrate even if I said I was not used to tank and not geared enough for that dungeon, so were the others and I kept dying the healer said I was guilty..lol...some healers should requestion themselves really...same as in CT you dont have SS ? the answer was No I am too lazy to get it. That healer spend all her CT without SS from me...

Mei

Because the scaling isn't linear.
A Plundered Cuirass has 44 defense 10% is 4.4
A Lords Cuirass has 148 defense 10% is 14.8

Since each point of defense seems to be 0.04% dr (http://valk.dancing-mad.com/calculat...ge-mitigation/)
This means at low level you got .176% increased dr, while at high level you got .592% increased dr. Now while this is just one piece of gear it should give you an idea of why this isn't linear.

[MeiUshu]

It doesnt matter what you compare the percentage is the same 10 % thus the use of it is the same this of 10%, simple as that, saying that 10% at lower level is nonsense and not useful ebcause figures are ridiculous that 10% mitigation wont make a difference is nonsense, ebcause the one being protected with 10% is better protected then this that has nothing which is exactly the point I want to make.

Numbers are different ebcause well they are different is proportionate the protection figures are different depending on the numbers you are adding but the percentage of protection is STILL 10% either low or high, or can dispute this ? and 10% is better then nothing and CAN make a difference right? so having it has it use.

But that is just me

Mei

[LionKing]

Tamtara is a lv 15 duns. And the party are at least ilv 50 for each members. Please don't tell me you really need Protect with that over geared level for such a low level duns and without it, you can not finish it????I mean REALLY???? Do the mobs really scare you that much???? o_O????

Oh and 10% of a dollar is not the same with 10% of a thousand dollar. And if you still think they are the same, I suppose you are really REALLY REALLY bad at Maths....