"I play the way I want" -Randomperson

[Tolmos]

It's usually hard to figure out whose in the wrong in these situations.

If someone in the group say "I notice you're using -blah- when you should be using -blah-", the person playing incorrectly would be in the wrong for going "To hell with you! I play like I want!"

On the other hand, if someone in the group says "Omg you're an idiot. Wtf are doing casting -blah-. Are you retarded?", then pretty much anyone would get defensive.

It's all in how you approach it.

[PixelPirate]

...started insulting and trying to wipe us by messing with mobs.

Instantly vote kick, report for harassment and move on. Obvious troll and perhaps a bad player. Cut your losses when you give advice once. If they don't take it, quit wasting your time and energy.

[Dels]

Relevant:

http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png

[Gormogon]

People are stating that they wish to see you do damage that is considered normal and respectable for your role.

Seeing as you're most likely not paying their subscription or have any sort of digital or real world ties with that person, it shouldn't matter.

Criticizing a person in-game in a dungeon due to expectations can lead the experience from going from bad to extremely horrible. If you wanna risk it by "giving your 2 cents" go ahead I wont stop you. Yet if it doesn't end up the way you wanted then one should realize that they made the situation worse and trying to play the blame game doesn't help. They are both at fault from my point of view.

[Darki]

going so far that he started insulting and trying to wipe us by messing with mobs.

This alone gives you the go ahead to vote dismiss him with "Harassment" as the reason. DPS jobs are a dime a dozen. Respond to his "I play how I want" with a "I kick duchebags out of parties how I want."

[Kerberon]

Seeing as you're most likely not paying their subscription or have any sort of digital or real world ties with that person, it shouldn't matter.

Criticizing a person in-game in a dungeon due to expectations can lead the experience from going from bad to extremely horrible. If you wanna risk it by "giving your 2 cents" go ahead I wont stop you. Yet if it doesn't end up the way you wanted then one should realize that they made the situation worse and trying to play the blame game doesn't help. They are both at fault from my point of view.

Considering there are things like dps checks where if you don't meet them the group will fail, polite advice is never in the wrong, and those that say it is are being deliberately toxic.

[Ephemeral_Nights]

RO but he'll be a hindrance to those trying to damage him/her in pvp.

not if they have marc/evil druid cards :3

[Jubez187]

In a good game, he would be able to play the way he wants, without being a hindrance.

So there hasn't been a good multiplayer game ever?

[Gormogon]

Considering there are things like dps checks where if you don't meet them the group will fail, polite advice is never in the wrong, and those that say it is are being deliberately toxic.

AK pre-nerf Warriors were capable of solo tanking Demon Wall in AK.

not if they have marc/evil druid cards :3

That teleport solution but yes there were so many cards that countered something.

[Kimikryo]

We did kick him for harassment, I still consider reporting him, but if they look into the chatlog (if they can) the discussion between the "teacher" and the "unwilling student" got quite unpretty towards the end.
And I don't want the "teacher" getting punished for losing his temper after 35 minutes of this insanity.

Gormogon, I really wish you get this what I got.
One complete new to the 50ies world DD
Another DD (same class) that performs so poorly, that even if you never played the class, you know something is going on, even poorer than the other
The "teacher" that calmly tries to tell the DDs how to improve. Not impolite, not polite, neutral. Not in condescending manner.
And you in the middle of it, wondering why the dungeon you even rushed in REALLY bad gear takes that long.

Would you really say "ah whatever, I am not paying his subscription, so he can play like he wants, even so it diminishes my fun?" or would you be asking friendly what is going on.