"I play the way I want" -Randomperson

[LetBloodline]

Mind explaining briefly what the BLM was doing wrong and what he should have been doing instead? I'm leveling BLM right now and maybe it can prevent me from being that guy making the noob mistakes next time.

Your best AOE rotation at lv 50 are those (swiftcast and convert not counted, just regular rotation):
easy one best on 2-3 mobs: Flare - transpose - Fire 3 - Fire 2 - Fire 2 - repeat
hard one with 4+ mobs: Flare - transpose - wait for get mana then wait 2 more seconds - Flare - Fire 2 - repeat

On second rotation if you mess up timing you lose dps. You can see the umbral ice ball floating around you. You start casting Flare after the ball make nearly 1 cycle around you from mana regen

[Urielparadox]

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ummmm? casting flair outside of astral fire for no reason?

aoe should never be used on less then 3 mobs, really it takes about 4 mobs to be higher dps. using flair from no astral fire is a really bad idea unless your timing your cast with the global tic in order to double flair(the hard one). Using flair then transposing then casting fire 3 doesn't even make since at all.

Fire 3- >fire 2(till under 1050mp)-> swift + flair -> transpose -> fire 3 -> fire 2... ->transpose... repeat

[Issac]

ummmm? casting flair outside of astral fire for no reason?

aoe should never be used on less then 3 mobs, really it takes about 4 mobs to be higher dps. using flair from no astral fire is a really bad idea unless your timing your cast with the global tic in order to double flair(the hard one). Using flair then transposing then casting fire 3 doesn't even make since at all.

Fire 3- >fire 2(till under 1050mp)-> swift + flair -> transpose -> fire 3 -> fire 2... ->transpose... repeat

Just cast bliz 3 til it's dead.
And watch netflix.

Spend half your time in there jogging into a wall.

Fun.

[Sapphic]

AS long as everyone doesn't die over and over again i could not give to shits what u do to be honest with you lol. If that's how you play and it works for you and it has work in the past cause u have fully tested it out good for you. But i wouldn't start complaining at u tilling you to get a flipping clue and learn how to do ur job right like i see people do to other people. But you comment about standing at back is just screaming trolling only a troll would do that lol.

So on one hand you say it's ok to play as you want. yet if it affects you it's an issue? Whys hould I care if everyone is dieing? I'm playing how I want to play, something you stated that others can't call me up on.

I gave extreme examples of how I could "play as I want" and cause issues for completing the dungeon. Something the OP pointed out what was happening in their dungeon, yet thats ok because it was a DPS? Double standards are bad.

[Yurihyuga]

There is one way to handle this, not to sound like an asshole but if after trying to explain and that is there attitude just threaten to kick them. If there still insisting then go ahead with the kick. SE have openly said they won't get involved in these matters and its basically fine to kick a party member that does not play to your liking.

Its fine to make mistakes in rotations and some people don't browse forums/reddit to browse rotations but if they don't want to learn and want to screw up your run even after you spend the time to stop and kindly try and explain to them just don't play with them and use the kick option.

[Kaze3434]

ummmm? casting flair outside of astral fire for no reason?

aoe should never be used on less then 3 mobs, really it takes about 4 mobs to be higher dps. using flair from no astral fire is a really bad idea unless your timing your cast with the global tic in order to double flair(the hard one). Using flair then transposing then casting fire 3 doesn't even make since at all.

Fire 3- >fire 2(till under 1050mp)-> swift + flair -> transpose -> fire 3 -> fire 2... ->transpose... repeat

"astral fire? whats that? dont tell me how to play!" would be the response some would use.

[Alise]

you are right. i do not pay their monthly fee. the other side is they do not pay for my monthly fee nor the other 2-6 people in the party. if they want to play one way and the rest of the group wants to play another the group can always kick them from the group and they can play the way they want in another group that wants to play that way.

Yup, if being nice enough to give advice is bad to their eyes. Ignore them. Use majority rule, being suck = kick. As long as you aren't joining into a party that majority all play bad lol xD. If those people get kicked often, they will either realize and start to learn, or they may just quit. whatever, it is not what we care, since they didn't pay us subscription, nor that we pay their.

Who care elitist? who care bad players? If dislike = kick, majority is on which side, so be it.

P.S. My server is Aegis (JP), and no matter how often I DF, I never run into a bad player once. It is amuse to me to hear all these talk about bad players in Eng forum. I have played since the open beta phase until now. So far, all the Japanese, and Asian players around DF servers here all learned their class well before DF, if it is not the best of goddess rotation, then they use simply one that work well enough. I always think that I would leave the party if I ever run into such a bad one I hear from people around here thought, but so far, I never seen the case.

[LetBloodline]

ummmm? casting flair outside of astral fire for no reason?

aoe should never be used on less then 3 mobs, really it takes about 4 mobs to be higher dps. using flair from no astral fire is a really bad idea unless your timing your cast with the global tic in order to double flair(the hard one). Using flair then transposing then casting fire 3 doesn't even make since at all.

Fire 3- >fire 2(till under 1050mp)-> swift + flair -> transpose -> fire 3 -> fire 2... ->transpose... repeat

Until we know how we'll get buffet for single target AOE rotation is optimal for 2+ targets. Obviusly if you do a good AOE rotation. Bad AOE rotation is bad unless you have many more mobs. On that i agree

Flare in UI is not "for no reason". Flare is bigghest AOE weapon and that rotation is the one that let you fire it off more often. You do 1 full flare each 13 sec plus one flare weakened but still AOE. If you have 4+ targets the damage dealt on each target is more than the Fire 3 on single target + fire 2 that's why this rotation is best only for 4+ mobs. The trick of the rotation is to get a mana tik after mana get emptied and before flare switch you from UI1 to AF3

But surely a rotation that use flare only if SC is avaiable it's no dubt less useful then single target even with 2-3 mobs. Maybe even 4

[Blackcanary]

@Sapphic;2212457

Let me explain more clearly 4 u.

Every1 has the right to play the game the way they want. They can cause there paying monthly.

In OP case from what i understand. BLM wasn't creating any issues he/she was still attacking just wasn't playing the Job how some people would believe it should be played.

IS that a problem, no. If every1 was dieing to a point that no one could get past 1 bosses or a certain part of a level, yes that would suck a little. But its nothing to be pissed of about or to get rude.

U gave an extreme example unbelievable to be correct. Like i said, if it has worked before good for u. Doesn't matter ether a DPS or a Tank. I don't see how that is double standards. Every1 has the right to play how they want. Dose it suck when some people do this? to u it might but for me it doesn't. This just means that i have to be on point with my job, i wont get upset. At the end of the day that's life. U deal with it & U move on.

[Algin]

I see it every run of roulette. SOmetimes DPS, with same classess is high, and mobs die fast, other time, it gets slower. To tell the truth, I really don't care. When I get enough healing, and mobs die, I don't bother who does what and how. Yes, it might take longer, as I might need to take 2-3 pulls in BF instead of one... but hell with it. It will be just few minutes difference. I rather play with people who have fun by playing the way they want, instead of doing it with stressed guys who gets yelled on like: "DO THIS THAT WAY, L2P NOOB".