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  1. #1
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    Kimikryo's Avatar
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    Kimikryo Torahige
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 74

    "I play the way I want" -Randomperson

    So I ran AK today as High Duty roulette.

    I thought, Oh Yiss, this will be fast, no Pharos or Hauke HM.

    So it goes on and on, and the mobs die REALLY slow. First I thought it might be because of the obviously new to AK BLM in full AF and no Relic yet, but I was wrong. It was the other BLM with full Mytho gear and Relic (no zenith but thats not the point)

    After the first few pulls, the whm asks the blm why he does what he is doing, meaning a question that can be reformed to "why aren't you using your skills in a way to maximize your damage output and mana regeneration"

    That blm got hyper defensive, the more the dungeon progressed the lower got his damage output.

    The whm explained the "best" rotation to which the guy said "I play the way I want"
    And would not take any friendly advice given, going so far that he started insulting and trying to wipe us by messing with mobs.

    The other BLM, tried to do his best, to improve himself, it was his very first level 50 dungeon (he said so himself) and asked several times if he does it right and was friendly.

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    Now, while I too play the way I want, I don't ignore advises that make the game progression better.
    I don't bark into someones face if he reminds me to do something or wants to help me to improve the role I am playing. Even if someone is rude with his explanations, I keep my cool and if it isn't utter goobbue crap I also will listen to these fellows.

    Play all the way you want.
    But if your play style just is a hindrance to everyone because you don't use that skill because you "don't like blizzard" or think "thunder is bad" or "shield oath is for noobs" , you should consider thinking over if you really want to play that class you are playing when doing it with random strangers.

    Others too want to enjoy the game you know?
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    Nana_Balthazar's Avatar
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    Nana Balthazar
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    Ragnarok
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    Marauder Lv 45
    In a good game, he would be able to play the way he wants, without being a hindrance.
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    Arakatos Evereign
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nana_Balthazar View Post
    In a good game, he would be able to play the way he wants, without being a hindrance.
    It's called single player :P
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    RedAntares's Avatar
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    Vanilla Pancake
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    Hyperion
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Arakatos View Post
    It's called single player :P
    This.

    You can play any way you want in the game BUT when it comes to playing with a team you have to adjust your play style so everyone can work together in clearing that content the best way possible, if they don't want to work with others they should play something else that's not an MMO.

    In my opinion that's just being selfish.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly, there is no possible way we can remain free" -- Frank Burns, M*A*S*H

    I think the problem is that there is ONLY one way to play, and ONLY one build of success. Couple this with this lack of consequence from DF and the lack of social community, and you have people chafing under the lack of choice.
    Yes, you are free to play in any way you want in a party even when friendly advice is given and no one is forcing you to do otherwise but when you are making things difficult for others in your team why not change things a little bit? I mean, you can still play the way you want while trying to be helpful to your team and not making something "easy" more difficult than it is.

    I also agree that the main problem is that there's not much to choose from in terms of builds for any class.
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    Last edited by RedAntares; 06-24-2014 at 03:49 AM.

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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by RedAntares View Post
    This.

    Yo can play any way you want in the game BUT when it comes to playing with a team you have to adjust your play style so everyone can work together in clearing that content the best way possible, if they don't want to work with others they should play something else that's not an MMO.

    In my opinion that's just being selfish.

    "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly, there is no possible way we can remain free" -- Frank Burns, M*A*S*H

    I think the problem is that there is ONLY one way to play, and ONLY one build of success. Couple this with this lack of consequence from DF and the lack of social community, and you have people chafing under the lack of choice.
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    Bladeglory's Avatar
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    Bladeglory Ilucien
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly, there is no possible way we can remain free" -- Frank Burns, M*A*S*H

    I think the problem is that there is ONLY one way to play, and ONLY one build of success. Couple this with this lack of consequence from DF and the lack of social community, and you have people chafing under the lack of choice.
    That's a bit of an extreme view, don't you think? I screw up on my BLM rotation all the time and I haven't researched how to optimize it (don't play it much) but it's never been a point of contention. Nobody has ever seemed to care. Decent is plenty fine.

    What RedAntares was saying was that it's a team game, and you should go in expecting to work together and not let them down. That's nowhere near conforming blindly. It is giving up your individuality, however, as that's what a team should be. You're fighting for and with three others.
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    Zarzak's Avatar
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    Zarzak Tigerspirit
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nana_Balthazar View Post
    In a good game, he would be able to play the way he wants, without being a hindrance.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arakatos View Post
    It's called single player :P
    ^ Since this mythical multiplayer game where you can be retarded and still do as good as people who try to play there class doesn't exist
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    Pyretta_Blaze's Avatar
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    Hazel Meade
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nana_Balthazar View Post
    In a good game, he would be able to play the way he wants, without being a hindrance.
    I can't think of a MMO where someone can decide to be an ice mage and only cast blizzard and not be a hinderance...
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    Gormogon Maxwell
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Pyretta_Blaze View Post
    I can't think of a MMO where someone can decide to be an ice mage and only cast blizzard and not be a hinderance...
    RO but he'll be a hindrance to those trying to damage him/her in pvp.
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    Ephemeral Nights
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Gormogon View Post
    RO but he'll be a hindrance to those trying to damage him/her in pvp.
    not if they have marc/evil druid cards :3
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