Younoob Tutorials.

[Alipoprocks]

I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.

[AnaviAnael]

I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.

You and me both. Let us go for margaritas and be losers together!

[Nero]

I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.

I know right.

But yeah, let the people stay with their delusional assumption that watching a video means that people can win more/faster, than someone who does "learning by doing". xD

[Nel_Celestine]

Last time I checked, Youtube Tutorials we not connected to the game itself as in plays them before loading the dungeon. So my guess is that no, they are not required. They can be helpful and that's a good thing. But I've been finding it all to often that players have been expecting everyone to watch several guides and be fully experienced on fights anywhere from 3hr to a day after they are released. That's rather unacceptable that there is such a small 'grace' period for actually playing and learning the fight with the community before the negative wall of 'perfection or GTFO' is dropped.

[Eekiki]

Why is it everyone elses job to teach the lazy how to do content? This is not September 2013. There is tones of info online.

Lazy/bad players are still going to be lazy and bad regardless of how many videos they've watched or how many times the fight is explained to them.

Long rant incoming:

Case in point: I went into Turn 6 for the first time. I didn't watch any videos (still haven't). Along with me was another person who was also going in for the first time, but this person watched Myzztec's video. With each wipe, I learned something new. I learned how briars worked. I learned how to avoid devours. I learned what to do when I got honeyed. I made progress. The person who watched the video? They were lost. Even though they watched a video, they still had to have everything explained to them a couple different ways, and they still had trouble. "That's different than the video," was said many times. Watching a video did not save the group any time, and it did not help this person learn anything about the fight.

The most fun I ever had playing this game, hands down, was the first time beating Ifrit hard mode back in 1.19 (at the time the most difficult fight in the game). Now, if you never had a chance to play 1.x, I can tell you -- and I'm sure everyone that did play it will agree with me -- that Ifrit hard mode today is a complete joke compared to 1.19...borderline insulting. My group didn't watch any videos. There weren't any videos. We worked at it every night for almost a week. With every wipe we got a little closer or learned something new, and every now and then we'd get him down to 2 or 3 percent health before wiping. Then we finally won. One of the group had recorded it on his Twitch stream, and I wish I could find where it was so you could hear our reactions on Ventrilo when we finished him off. It was frustrating, torturous even, but the payoff in the end was incredible. We rode that high for days, and it still makes me smile when I think about it. A meaningless accomplishment in a silly video game two years ago still brings me joy.

That's why I won't watch videos. And, no, I'm not going to put up a new learning party in the party finder if someone else already has a learning PT forming with a spot I can fit into. That is a waste of time.

[Zantetsuken]

After all, FFXIV is a monthly subscription to play. It's free to watch on youtube, but I'm payed up through June - I'll play.

You watch battles on youtube, mimic it perfectly in-game, and are rewarded with gear that does nothing but allow you to repeat the same process with another battle and another youtube video.

wash, rinse, repeat...

Considering that the content is scripted and predictable, and the rewards are mere unlocks for more scripted and predictable content, you can experience 99% of the game in YouTube for free.

Under the current game design, SE should really ban all ARR YouTube videos -- if just to make the monthly subscription actually provide value.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

IMO: People are just misunderstanding the multiple purpose of the video tutorials. Watching a video helps you to know the mechanics involved in the battle. It doesn't make you win, it makes things easier to understand and learn. You can manage the strat with your party as you please, but you know what's going to happen when the boss reaches, for example, 50% of his HP or what X mechanic does if you do Y or Z. If there's a party asking for people to watch a video first and you don't want to, then don't join them.

I DID watch a lot of video tutorials for T9. I also watched win videos, practice videos, I read about their mechanics and strats. Sadly, my static doesn't have much time for practice, and having people that knows the whole thing or its mechanics help with the whole process. I encourage my group to watch a video. It's not mandatory but it's really useful.

[Traek]

Not sure why this always comes up as a subject. If you don't want to watch videos, go make a PF of like minded individuals, and learn the fight together through experience. It is also very beneficial to join an FC or LS with like minded individuals who will do content with you on a consistent basis, so that you can make progress.

If you don't want people who have no idea of the fight or haven't watched a video, then also make a PF for like minded individuals. Also, joining an FC or LS with like minded individuals to raid with on a consistent basis is very beneficial to making consistent progress.

If you join a DF, you are flipping a coin. Don't expect anything from either side, there are jerks and terribads on both side of the camp, as well as competent helpful people on both sides.

How about both sides give some mutual respect and take steps to both not go in over your head, and not be a condescending dick bag. It'll go a long way to improve relations in this game. Also, just because one douche might have been a douche, doesn't mean the whole community is, and they are very easily blacklisted and ignored. Please exercise this right!

[Sonofbaldo]

It is because the vast majority of gamers are cry babies. These gamers learned well over a decade ago that if you cry enough, you will get your way. Especially when it comes to SE who will nerf anything you wish if you find it too difficult. So when you match cry babies with a company bending to their every whim...this is the kind of gamers you end up with. Sadly, there are more of them than you.

Every single person who says you should learn how to do a fight before ever entering the fight is one of those cry babies. They'll deny it. They'll refuse. They'll try to flip it back on you somehow to convince themselves they aren't cry babies. But they are cry babies, and they are why video games are so insanely easy. And when they arent easy, they'll make such a stink that the company will make them easy just to stop them from crying. Look no further than XI.

[Ehayte]

Are those people not watching YouTube videos also refusing to take any advice from other players?

i.e.

Player_01 >> OK, so in this next phase here, Mob_01 is going to . . .
Non-video_watcher >> STOP TYPING RIGHT NOW OR I AM GOING TO SCREAM!!!

Having someone explain the fight to you is about equivocal to watching a video, except for the fact that it is actively using someone else's time, where is watching a video only uses your time.

If that's the case, all the more power to you. If I thought it was realistic for me to efficiently learn-by-doing in all fights, I totally would do it. I really don't have the time to do that though, and I respect the time of the other people doing the fights that have already learned or had the fight explained to them enough to watch a video so that Mr Happy or whomever else can explain the basic principals to me.