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    Hiruke's Avatar
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Arcanist Lv 73
    OP, I love your thread title. You stay classy, San Diego.

    Long story short:

    Expect awfulness in DF. Period. It's not even worth discussing how people behave in there, because you'll get people who not only don't know the fight, but are INCAPABLE of learning, such as healers who simply do not understand that maybe standing on top of the dps and pushing everyone into Ifrit with Searing Wind is maybe a bad idea. Not only will they continue to do this infinitely, they will yell at YOU for dying to the Eruptions that THEY sent you careening into. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY. (This, btw, is way more problematic than people saying "yo go watch a video".)

    Similarly, expect jerks in DF. Get over it. If you don't want the lolz, don't join DF. That goes for pros and noobs alike. That's just life.

    I think the REAL problem is when people who have no clue join PF parties that REQUIRE that you be experienced. These people try to sneak in all the time. You've seen them. Drowning in Leviathan, killing the BLM in Mog EX without denting the other moogles, getting hit by every Weight and Landslide in Titan EX... Weekly clear party? Must be experienced!? TIME TO SNEAK IN AND HOPE FOR A CARRY.

    Or maybe go back to DF, or only join learning PTs. If you think "elitists" are bad for the game, imagine how those "elitists" feel about all the scrubs who sneak into "experienced only" parties and play like they bought their account all of 10 minutes ago.
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    I think the REAL problem is when people who have no clue join PF parties that REQUIRE that you be experienced. These people try to sneak in all the time. You've seen them. Drowning in Leviathan, killing the BLM in Mog EX without denting the other moogles, getting hit by every Weight and Landslide in Titan EX... Weekly clear party? Must be experienced!? TIME TO SNEAK IN AND HOPE FOR A CARRY.

    Or maybe go back to DF, or only join learning PTs. If you think "elitists" are bad for the game, imagine how those "elitists" feel about all the scrubs who sneak into "experienced only" parties and play like they bought their account all of 10 minutes ago.
    Seeing as how the majority of PF entries by weekend are chock full of "FARMABLE, MUST HAVE MULTI CLEARS, FIRST TRY, KICK IF YOU CANT STAND IN YELLOW" and other such gems. I'm not going to waste my sympathy.
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    Last edited by Kallera; 07-01-2014 at 01:03 AM.

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    Xellos2099's Avatar
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    Flame Colonel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    Seeing as how the majority of PF entries by weekend are chock full of "FARMABLE, MUST HAVE MULTI CLEARS, FIRST TRY, KICK IF YOU CANT STAND IN YELLOW" and other such gems. I'm not going to waste my sympathy.
    On the otherhand, what do you call a player that join that pf that require prior win on thw first day of the reset?
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    Alipoprocks's Avatar
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    Sam Witch
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    I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.
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    AnaviAnael's Avatar
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    Anavi Anael
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.
    You and me both. Let us go for margaritas and be losers together!
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    Karon Mephisto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.
    I know right.

    But yeah, let the people stay with their delusional assumption that watching a video means that people can win more/faster, than someone who does "learning by doing". xD
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    ShinkuTachi's Avatar
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    Pyro Frost
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    I know right.

    But yeah, let the people stay with their delusional assumption that watching a video means that people can win more/faster, than someone who does "learning by doing". xD
    Agreed!

    Watching a video is good for nothing more than preparation and giving a player an idea of what to expect in a fight. That's really it. It certainly does not replace the hands-on experience you obtain through actually practicing, doing the fight, and group dynamic.


    But for fun:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d29VsG35DQM
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    Moheeheeko's Avatar
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    Asrah Stone
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    Behemoth
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    Conjurer Lv 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Alipoprocks View Post
    I guess I must be one of the bads. Because besides Garuda, I have never beaten any endgame content my first try even after watching every video I could find and reading any information available. I have had to practice everything many times before beating it.
    I hear ya, months and months and im STILL stuck on t6.
    Then again that could be from other factors but im usually very self critical >_>
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