Younoob Tutorials.

[radioactive_lego]

Greetings,
Recently, just before a mass bail-out on a high level raid/dungeon (after back to back wipes) I got cussed at, and told to "Watch the youtube video"; a tutorial on how to successfully complete the fight.

No thank you.

I understand that some folks desire to quickly dispatch end-game bosses. And for this, seasoned, experienced teammates who "know the fight" are preferable. However; there are many solid, knowledgeable, players who want to have their experiences IN GAME, and not second hand from Mr. Happy.

If you feel like these players are "wasting your time" by battle trial and error/not watching the youtube tutorial, I certainly appreciate your plight. I would also appreciate understanding, and cooperation with those who would rather learn the fight for themselves, and not waste time watching youtube.

After all, FFXIV is a monthly subscription to play. It's free to watch on youtube, but I'm payed up through June - I'll play.

Regards,
RL

[meJojo]

Maybe go in with 7 people who have the same mindset as you, then?

[Eekiki]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

[Evaddaragon]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

I'm sorry, but I disagree with you. I've used his guides for a couple of fights, mainly the EX primals and Twintania. While I agree that nothing beats first-hand experience, it allowed me to beat, for example, Leviathan EX on my 4th DF party alone, with all of them abandoning after 2-3 tries. And when I finally won, I was the only one who hadn't beaten it before yet I didn't drag everyone else down.

It's a tool that helps. You don't have to use it, but then don't complain if the 7 others in your party want you to. As others pointed out, the OP can always use the PF and make a learning party.

[Haibel]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

Amen brother. His "guides" are drivel. I wouldn't go as far as shutting down his Youtube channel. he should still to commentary
because his "guides" are utter trash and do breed Kool-aid drinkers.

[LeonBlade]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

Breed bad players, seriously? There are plenty of good and bad players in this game, it has nothing to do with Mrhappy's videos. I've watched Mrhappy's videos and I'm not a "bad player".

Some people like to have a peek into something before diving in, especially with a toxic community that expects no one to be new to anything that isn't brand new at the time.

You should always value your own experiences over someone else's guidance when it comes to this, but going so far as to say he breeds bad players and his account should be shut down is ridiculous. Especially when he produces great content outside of guides, as well as supporting charities and overall just being a nice guy to talk to.

[Welsper59]

Amen brother. His "guides" are drivel. I wouldn't go as far as shutting down his Youtube channel. he should still to commentary
because his "guides" are utter trash and do breed Kool-aid drinkers.

Pointing the blame at his videos, which I still fail to see how they're warranted as "bad", is essentially a reaction of said "Kool-aid drinkers". Some of them are outdated, a few might actually be categorized as "bad" or misinformed, but that doesn't exactly say that as a whole they're "utter trash". So I'm guessing his videos really did breed that sort of player you describe negatively, as I seem to be referring to one. >.> Funny how that works.

Always always ALWAYS point the blame for bad things at the person who does them (in this case, the player that fails to adapt to play better). Don't find a scapegoat for the people that fail to adapt or interpret information correctly. As in doing so, you're showing you lack the ability to perceive personal conduct, essentially that you're no better than the typical mouth-breather. That, to the rest of us, is a situation that is just begging to be mocked. It's like the argument that video games breed murderers, where it just ignores so much logic to point blame at something that doesn't deserve it.

[Morningstar1337]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

If you really want that you could try to report him for copyright infringement, just saying.

That said. I disagree. There are worse causes for bad players (Arrogance, lagging and generally being undergeared)

[Ecks007]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

Not necessarily. While his videos are perhaps not exactly the best tutorials, he does try to explain boss abilities and possible strategies. The only problem is he only talks about whatever strategy that his group used, as if it's the only viable option. Most of the time I have found his videos to be of some help. Watching his videos are not going to make you good at a Primal fight, however, watching his videos and then doing the fight a few times to understand the mechanics while in play and comparing it with what you saw in the video does help to give you a bit more of an understanding of the fight and how it may go.

At least it has for me. I've certainly learned some alternative methods to a few of the primal fights that he didn't go over while doing them, and learned that on some of the fights that positioning isn't exactly like what you might have seen in the video. He just tries to be "the first" to put out that new "tutorial" on new fights. So his methods are not always perfect or optimal, nor are his explanations, though they can help you get an idea of how the fight plays out so you have a general idea of what to do (at least, as a dps, since he seems to favor Bard for everything). ((This also works well for me, personally, because I main a ranged dps job))

I don't like going into things blind with no idea what I should do or what moves a boss does because that's going to get me killed very quickly. Even knowing what to do, sometimes you are still going to die simply because you are not attempting the fight all by yourself and despite your best effort, someone else can make a mistake and possibly wipe the party if they don't know what to do. This is particularly true of tanks and healers, a bit moreso than dps since their roles have generally been extremely important in the Primal fights (particularly the EX ones) and there are less of them than dps. If one dps dies it's not completely likely that you will fail, but if one tank or healer dies and isn't immediately rez'd then... oh boy, there's going to be a problem.

[Nero]

Players that have tried the fight and wiped a bunch of times will always be better than first timers who've watched a Mr. Happy video.

I do wish SE would get his YouTube account shut down. His guides are awful and they breed bad players.

^This.

Let aside that Mr Happy is not really the "ultimate" guide. He does a lot of Tutorials, but most are just an overview and not always the best way of "how to". ( oh you actually said that as well. xD just saw after quote )