Petition to support polygamous marriage (when the system is released).

[Mcshiggs]

I'm surprised, where did all the support for equal rights and choices go? I was under the assumption we were all about equality for everyone around here, and the freedom for game mechanics to support multiple lifestyles especially ones that are backed up by in-game lore.

I guess we're fine with some forms of equality while openly dismissing others

(I don't care either way but i love this thread)

Equal rights only goes as far as those arguing for it, anything past what they want they just laugh at, dismiss, and insult others for "crossing lines."

[Chihaya]

And this further reinforce that SE should just drop the whole marriage/eternal bonding system. Because players will never be happy.

[Kerberon]

Ok, this thread is sickening and I'm honestly disappointed with my fellow gamers here on this one. This thread is nothing but a copy of what the right wing entertainment industry does on their radio shows to get the conservative population whipped into a frenzy. It goes like this, "If you allow gay marriage what next, Polygamy, bestiality, incest, pedophilia?" That makes this whole thread nothing but a troll as there is no reason for this thread other than to get people angry and get their blood pressure up.

Now some of you may be saying that there are real polygamists out there and want to frame this as a equal rights for them debate. Here's the problem, polygamy exists in two predominant groups that I know of, some branches of Islam and some excommunicated Morman sects. (There may be other religions but those are what I know of) In each of these the practice is that one man marries multiple women. This is inherently sexist. It is also very similar to Elliot Rodgers manifesto where he stated a desire to put all women in a camp for breeding purposes. So think very very carefully about what you are defending.

I'm very disappointed with this community on the forums with this thread.

[Ryel]

Ok, this thread is sickening and I'm honestly disappointed with my fellow gamers here on this one. This thread is nothing but a copy of what the right wing entertainment industry does on their radio shows to get the conservative population whipped into a frenzy. It goes like this, "If you allow gay marriage what next, Polygamy, bestiality, incest, pedophilia?" That makes this whole thread nothing but a troll as there is no reason for this thread other than to get people angry and get their blood pressure up.

Now some of you may be saying that there are real polygamists out there and want to frame this as a equal rights for them debate. Here's the problem, polygamy exists in two predominant groups that I know of, some branches of Islam and some excommunicated Morman sects. (There may be other religions but those are what I know of) In each of these the practice is that one man marries multiple women. This is inherently sexist. It is also very similar to Elliot Rodgers manifesto where he stated a desire to put all women in a camp for breeding purposes. So think very very carefully about what you are defending.

I'm very disappointed with this community on the forums with this thread.

And here we go!

You seem to be forgetting that Polyamory and Polysexuality are something that actually exists. While not all people who are Polyamorous / Polysexual wish to or even feel the need to form permanent lasting relationships with multiple partners (see: marriage) this doesn't mean that others may not wish to.

I find it interesting that now another form of rights and equality that ISN'T practiced world wide and only accepted within a few select groups that may not be your own is now an issue.

Or are you going to suggest that Polyamory / Polysexuality is a choice/preference and not inherent/genetic?

I think what most people who are making jokes/commenting in this thread are trying to point out is that if the argument is going to be made for equal opportunity for everyone then it should be made for everyone, the concept of equal rights is not a buffet plate that you can pick and chose from when you feel it's convenient or only applies to you.

I made clear before that i don't care about this as a game issue either way because well it's a game in the end, however i do find quite a few of the responses in this thread rather illuminating to be honest.

[Rosy]

What a ridiculous request. You do realise that in some religions/countries it is not only legal, but general practice for an older man to marry an 8 year old girl? We call that paedophilia, next we're going to ask for equal rights for that!!! Just because a few (VERY few) people indulge in what is considered illegal in the majority of countries/religions in this world, does NOT make it ok to ask for. Role play your many husbands/wives, or just be a cat and have as many breeding females/males as you want....just like cats (you do realise that animals don't marry?)

[Ryel]

What a ridiculous request. You do realise that in some religions/countries it is not only legal, but general practice for an older man to marry an 8 year old girl? We call that paedophilia, next we're going to ask for equal rights for that!!! Just because a few (VERY few) people indulge in what is considered illegal in the majority of countries/religions in this world, does NOT make it ok to ask for. Role play your many husbands/wives, or just be a cat and have as many breeding females/males as you want....just like cats (you do realise that animals don't marry?)

This sounds awfully familiar.

[Velox]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f_polygamy.png

From Wikipedia:
Black = legalized
Gray = unknown
Light blue = illegal, but the law doesn't crack down on it
Dark blue = highly illegal and considered a criminal act punishable to the fullest extent of the law (varies by country)


Yea....no, I HIGHLY doubt SE would ever consider a "formal" addition in this game. Stick to your RP-made harems.

[Ryel]

Nvm seems you edited out your original comment

[LadyVal]

While I completely support polygamy, I think restrictions would need to be put on in-game benefits. My first reaction is that people would start marrying/bonding with large groups just for the in-game benefits. And I think depending on the bonuses they give us, it could become like "Oh you're in our static? You have to marry/bond with all of us so we're all getting the same benefit."

Though if the only benefit is something like free teleports to someone you're bonded with, I support that.

[Dhex]

Nunh have polygamist and inter-family sexual relationships (Father - Nunh, mating pool likely includes all sister/mothers of the Tribe; passes to sons -> Tia); Sunseekers are similar to lions - significantly inbreeding to root-out bad genes. A Nunh must either prove himself superior in combat or entice females away to have offspring. It can also be inferred that Tia that do not wish to become Nunh will seek alternatives - homosexual relationships or modern Eorzean relationships (marriage & monogamy homosexual or heterosexual).

Inter-species breeding is unclear - as of yet we (Adventurers) have not encountered any hybrids besides perhaps mixed-blood Garleans and the divergent Padjal (a sub-species of Hyur Midlanders).
Off-spring of mixed blood are likely possible but highly unlikely due to extremes of sexsiual dimorphism and adaptation among races; in example Roegadyn are very unlikely to comfortably maintain a healthy sexual relationship nor conceive a with a Hyur/Miqote/Lalafell without significant risks - Miqote females have significantly wider hips possibly because the likelihood of twins or triplets is higher among both Sunseekers & Moonkeepers.

Given this the foundation for the possibility of acceptable polygamy lies only with traditional tribal Sunseekers; female tribe members however are not bound by law only by an arrangement based in tradition. This tradition also implies that the Nunh of a tribe passes by combat, or by blood inheritance and must be approved of by a majority of the females in the tribe.

These principles withstanding I believe that it goes against the legality of an Eorzean Union to be shared among more than two individuals.