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    People in here are nuts...

    Enough! Stop pulling on Yoshida's arm all the time.
    You're acting like kids who absolutelly want their candy.
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    Last edited by SirSaber; 06-22-2014 at 04:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSaber View Post
    People in here are nuts...
    SE's gone throw some issues and still made Mariage free of any restrictions and now OP wants MultiMariage ?

    Enough! Stop pulling on Yoshida's arm all the time.
    You're acting like kids who absolutelly want their candy.
    Well actually... serious OP or not there is a point to be made about the concept of marriage equality that the once vocal supporters are now mysteriously silent about.

    The irony being pointed out is that after one group received what they considered "equality" they turned very quickly on the idea of a another group in a similar situation.

    The idea that those who are Polyamorous / Polysexual are now ridiculous or asking for too much is quite shocking considering the number of threads and complaints that went up for months about the same sex issue. In fact this very thread joke or not was something that people were repeatedly warning others about when the issue first came up, that the game should not be a platform for political issues concerning equality especially if you aren't willing to take it all the way (haha yes i know).

    To those who will propose the slippery slope argument that Pedophilia, Bestiality, etc etc are byproducts of this line of thinking i hope you are aware of the very clear distinction between relationships formed by sexual orientation and relationships formed by consent and understanding.

    The issues of Pedophilia and Bestiality arise based on the fact that in those types of relationships only one of the partners has the mental facilities to actually consent to said relationship, it's why the age of consent laws actually vary from area to area:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of..._North_America.

    You can see how this is massively different than a relationship formed by multiple consenting adults of legal age.

    If anything the lesson to take away from this is to be very careful when asking for something to be added to the game while waving the banner of "Equal Rights For All!" without understanding what that truly entails.

    I should make it clear that while i dont paticularly care about in game marriage i respect Yoshida's decision to add same sex partnerships to the game via the eternal bonding system and give credit to the entire FFXIV staff and Square-Enix for handling this charged topic quite gracefully, unfortunately the same cannot quite be said about the community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryel View Post
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    You're right.

    I didn't care about same sex marriage because this is a game.
    Sadly some people are and think to much for their own good and tend to push small mater into the extreme.
    Wanting "equal rights for all" in a game ? Well w-e.

    I think people are too egoistic and absolutely want the game to go their way.
    And that's what pisses me off.

    I only hope SE will not yield to w-e demands players come to ask them.
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    Just to show that polygamy is already an existing system in this game (and while I don't think formal polygamy will be implemented, this information may be useful to those who choose to RP as typical Miqo'te):

    Seekers of the Sun:

    "Males do not take family names, as they are each considered the 'origins' of new families. In place of a family name, they are given a title that denotes their tribe, and their position within it. For a male Seeker of the Sun, there are only two positions available—breeding males (nunh – pronounced 'noon') and all others (tia – pronounced 'tea-ah'). All males are born as tia. At any time in their lives, a tia can challenge the tribe nunh to battle. If the tia is victorious, he takes the nunh's place as tribe breeding male (until he is challenged and defeated), and the nunh becomes a tia once again (if he survives the ordeal). This is done to ensure that the tribes offspring are of the finest stock. Depending on its size, a tribe may have multiple nunh (a ratio of one nunh per ten to fifty females is average).

    There is only one other way a tia can become a nunh, and that is to leave his tribe, and start his own. This, of course, requires several females to accomplish, and most female Seekers of the Sun are rarely impressed by a male who cannot defeat a nunh. As all letters of the alphabet are already taken by the 26 original tribes, any new tribes founded by tia are named with a second letter, such as "Ma" (e.g. "Ma'shtola"). These tribes tend to die out due to the aforementioned lack of women.

    Nunh status does not equate to leadership within a tribe, and in fact, very few nunh ever become leaders.

    A female first name will always begin with the letter representing her tribe, followed by an apostrophe, and then her given name. Her last name is the first name of the tribe's breeding male who sired her."

    Keepers of the Moon:

    "Unlike the Seekers of the Sun, the Keepers of the Moon is a highly matriarchal society, with family names passed down from the mother, not the father. It is said that some of these surnames have survived since the First Astral Era.

    The Keepers of the Moon lead more solitary lives, rarely forming communities of more than two or three families. Therefore, a tribal letter is not assigned to the names.

    The matriarchal strength is further displayed by the fact that female first names are short, one/two syllable constructions that closely resemble names used by male Seekers of the Sun.

    More evidence of how important the mother is to the Keepers of the Moon can be seen when looking at the names given to males. In addition to taking the mother's surname, males also take the mother's forename, adding a suffix (separated by an apostrophe) to the end to designate the order in which they were born."

    All of this comes from the lore on how Miqo'Te name themselves;

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Miqo'te/Naming
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    Last edited by LadyVal; 06-22-2014 at 04:51 PM.

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    Just when you think you've seen it all. xD
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    The only lore support for polygamy in XIV is the clanned miqo'te, the U clan in Forgotten Springs being the only obvious example. But, really, they aren't married so much as 'mated' like a pride of lions (though that makes one wonder just how awkward the line of succession is given that the nuhn's sons are in line to inherit the clan...). Thus it only makes sense for miqo'te. Applying this to the real world, only certain countries have polygamy. Japan is not such a country and only Mormons legally follow the practice in the US. No reason to have it in XIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilraen View Post
    ...only Mormons legally follow the practice in the US.
    Hi! o/

    Sorry to interrupt your discussion, but I want to point out that this is incorrect information.
    http://www.mormon.org/faq/practice-of-polygamy

    Thank you and carry on. ^_^
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    ITT : Attention wh*res and the players who love them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eriatarka12 View Post
    Isn't it possible for us to love and be friends with more than one
    Yes it is possible and it is already in game:it is called "Free Company"
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    WTF DID I JUST READ
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