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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    ^^ Some things are just better RPed anyways.
    Amusingly this is my attitude toward the entire marriage system. And yet here we are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    I'm very disappointed with this community on the forums with this thread.
    Wail and gnash your teeth all you want. I don't believe for half a second that SE will actually do this and I have zero personal interest in any marriage system: straight, gay, poly, or otherwise. I'm just pointing out a rather blatant fact when I say that polygamy is already established in game. If there's anything disappointing about this thread it's the double standard being applied to equal rights. "Polygamy" is the greatest fear of the gay rights supporter, because they know it does even more than "traditional marriage" to undermine their cause. They get all indignant about being oppressed, then turn around and do the exact same thing to an even smaller minority because it serves their own self-interest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy View Post
    Just because a few (VERY few) people indulge in what is considered illegal in the majority of countries/religions in this world, does NOT make it ok to ask for.
    Your thoughtless blanket statement here basically just ruled out gay marriage, too. Think more critically about your arguments to avoid giving the wrong impression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Velox View Post
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f_polygamy.png
    From Wikipedia:
    Black = legalized
    Gray = unknown
    Light blue = illegal, but the law doesn't crack down on it
    Dark blue = highly illegal and considered a criminal act punishable to the fullest extent of the law (varies by country)
    Yea....no, I HIGHLY doubt SE would ever consider a "formal" addition in this game. Stick to your RP-made harems.
    You've got to be kidding me. That's essentially the entire Muslim world, covering more than 1.9 billion people and over 25% of the world's population. By comparison, the gay population in America is estimated to be less than 4%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melithea View Post


    Your thoughtless blanket statement here basically just ruled out gay marriage, too. Think more critically about your arguments to avoid giving the wrong impression.
    My statement was not thoughtless
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    What a ridiculous request. You do realise that in some religions/countries it is not only legal, but general practice for an older man to marry an 8 year old girl? We call that paedophilia, next we're going to ask for equal rights for that!!! Just because a few (VERY few) people indulge in what is considered illegal in the majority of countries/religions in this world, does NOT make it ok to ask for. Role play your many husbands/wives, or just be a cat and have as many breeding females/males as you want....just like cats (you do realise that animals don't marry?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy View Post
    What a ridiculous request. You do realise that in some religions/countries it is not only legal, but general practice for an older man to marry an 8 year old girl? We call that paedophilia, next we're going to ask for equal rights for that!!! Just because a few (VERY few) people indulge in what is considered illegal in the majority of countries/religions in this world, does NOT make it ok to ask for. Role play your many husbands/wives, or just be a cat and have as many breeding females/males as you want....just like cats (you do realise that animals don't marry?)
    This sounds awfully familiar.
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    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...f_polygamy.png

    From Wikipedia:
    Black = legalized
    Gray = unknown
    Light blue = illegal, but the law doesn't crack down on it
    Dark blue = highly illegal and considered a criminal act punishable to the fullest extent of the law (varies by country)


    Yea....no, I HIGHLY doubt SE would ever consider a "formal" addition in this game. Stick to your RP-made harems.
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    Last edited by Velox; 06-22-2014 at 03:26 PM.

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    Nvm seems you edited out your original comment
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    While I completely support polygamy, I think restrictions would need to be put on in-game benefits. My first reaction is that people would start marrying/bonding with large groups just for the in-game benefits. And I think depending on the bonuses they give us, it could become like "Oh you're in our static? You have to marry/bond with all of us so we're all getting the same benefit."

    Though if the only benefit is something like free teleports to someone you're bonded with, I support that.
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    Nunh have polygamist and inter-family sexual relationships (Father - Nunh, mating pool likely includes all sister/mothers of the Tribe; passes to sons -> Tia); Sunseekers are similar to lions - significantly inbreeding to root-out bad genes. A Nunh must either prove himself superior in combat or entice females away to have offspring. It can also be inferred that Tia that do not wish to become Nunh will seek alternatives - homosexual relationships or modern Eorzean relationships (marriage & monogamy homosexual or heterosexual).

    Inter-species breeding is unclear - as of yet we (Adventurers) have not encountered any hybrids besides perhaps mixed-blood Garleans and the divergent Padjal (a sub-species of Hyur Midlanders).
    Off-spring of mixed blood are likely possible but highly unlikely due to extremes of sexsiual dimorphism and adaptation among races; in example Roegadyn are very unlikely to comfortably maintain a healthy sexual relationship nor conceive a with a Hyur/Miqote/Lalafell without significant risks - Miqote females have significantly wider hips possibly because the likelihood of twins or triplets is higher among both Sunseekers & Moonkeepers.

    Given this the foundation for the possibility of acceptable polygamy lies only with traditional tribal Sunseekers; female tribe members however are not bound by law only by an arrangement based in tradition. This tradition also implies that the Nunh of a tribe passes by combat, or by blood inheritance and must be approved of by a majority of the females in the tribe.

    These principles withstanding I believe that it goes against the legality of an Eorzean Union to be shared among more than two individuals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhex View Post
    snip....
    The lore is very interesting, but there is a lot in there about sexual relationships, not actual marriage. Miqote behaviour is very similar to that of the animal kingdom (apart from humans). Animals don't have marriage ceremonies, they have multiple sexual relationships. Even those species which have one partner for life...don't "marry", that is a human thing and revolves purely round religion and in the case of non religious marriages, the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosy View Post
    The lore is very interesting, but there is a lot in there about sexual relationships, not actual marriage. Miqote behaviour is very similar to that of the animal kingdom (apart from humans). Animals don't have marriage ceremonies, they have multiple sexual relationships. Even those species which have one partner for life...don't "marry", that is a human thing and revolves purely round religion and in the case of non religious marriages, the law.
    Precisely - hence the "it's based in tradition" and never bringing marriage up except to say that an Eorzean Union is likely only legally recognized if it's between two individuals...

    I think Eorzea is a pretty interesting place. I'm excited to see more of the greater world.
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