Accs really should have class reqs...

[pikster]

Just got out of an hour hour brayflox HM run, yeah... An hour...

Party IQ not withstanding I noticed that the WHM's heals were doing basically nothing, I examined and they were wearing full i100 INT gear, not a point of MND to be found. So I mentioned it and (of course) they said that the tank was taking too much damage... SO I checked them, Curtana, ok, Holy shield, ok... Darklight band of aiming, neck of aiming, earings of aiming, kneck of aiming... Their justification, "It is better".

They each had around 50-60 points of stats that were entirely useless to them and gave nothing to make the party's dungeon any easier.

Excluding perhaps crafting accs (lolSB), should there be class reqs on this equipment? To help people from themselves...

[Kerberon]

The only problem with this would be for tanks that use dps accessories when in the open world to help their dps. While this might help, you really can't save people from themselves, they'll still do something else, and if you eliminate all choice the game gets rather boring.

[PArcher]

The only problem with this would be for tanks that use dps accessories when in the open world to help their dps. While this might help, you really can't save people from themselves, they'll still do something else, and if you eliminate all choice the game gets rather boring.

Tanks don't just use Melee accessories solo, in any dungeon pre-Haukke (where you get your first tank stance and VIT differences start to matter; note, this does assume the tank is lv50 and knows how to tank properly) going a maxed-STR build is perfectly fine, and can help speed up runs. You can probably use STR accessories all the way to AV, and thanks to all the nerfs its definitely possible to do that in AK (I actually healed AK once using only Eos...yeah, that place got hit HARD). They also are great for OTs in some fights (any HM primal, T5, T7, T8, Prae and CM) and even MTs on bosses where damage is low (Demon Wall, Hali HM first boss, Bray HM second and third bosses, Ruins first and second bosses, etc)

Certain SMN builds (esp Tanking with Titan runs) require VIT accessories, and VIT accessories are also used to meet HP requirements (way back when 3200 hp for Titan HM was a lot for casters/heals, T5 pre-Echo, T9, etc)


Just because some people are not too bright doesn't mean we need to change this.

[pikster]

Oh I totally get where you are coming from, I know on my WAR if im off tanking and not going to be taking many hits I will throw on some STR accs and DPS fo days. Was there not a system in 1.0 that had recommended classes? So if it wasnt in one of those the stat was less effective? Though I know pretty much everything of 1.0 is something to be forgotten XD.

[UBERHAXED]

Just got out of an hour hour brayflox HM run, yeah... An hour...

Party IQ not withstanding I noticed that the WHM's heals were doing basically nothing, I examined and they were wearing full i100 INT gear, not a point of MND to be found. So I mentioned it and (of course) they said that the tank was taking too much damage... SO I checked them, Curtana, ok, Holy shield, ok... Darklight band of aiming, neck of aiming, earings of aiming, kneck of aiming... Their justification, "It is better".

They each had around 50-60 points of stats that were entirely useless to them and gave nothing to make the party's dungeon any easier.

Excluding perhaps crafting accs (lolSB), should there be class reqs on this equipment? To help people from themselves...

Mmk... Pro tank tank you are who doesn't read stat descriptions. You're just mad that he found out before you did.

[Cadwgan]

Mmk... Pro tank tank you are who doesn't read stat descriptions. You're just mad that he found out before you did.

Dexterity improves blocking rate for a Paladin... it is in fact, much better.

Two troll posts in a row, okay I'll bite. Unless something has changed since I last saw, dexterity boosts block and parry rate by such a pathetically small amount it's not even worth considering. Unless you have a link to some documented testing on the subject, quit spreading misinformation.

[UBERHAXED]

Two troll posts in a row, okay I'll bite. Unless something has changed since I last saw, dexterity boosts block and parry rate by such a pathetically small amount it's not even worth considering. Unless you have a link to some documented testing on the subject, quit spreading misinformation.

You kind of just gave away that you have no idea what the stats actually do in the last sentence. And... "last time I saw": so what documentation do you have to back up your claims? It should be pretty obvious if the stats didn't do anything, then they would have just left the effect as determining ranged damage.

[saber_alter]

You kind of just gave away that you have no idea what the stats actually do in the last sentence. And... "last time I saw": so what documentation do you have to back up your claims? It should be pretty obvious if the stats didn't do anything, then they would have just left the effect as determining ranged damage.

just going to drop here, it was done by a redditor. it might just be a lack of testing but it seems that parry rate actually drops at higher dex rates. block rate seems fine however.



though in reality it wouldn't be a good idea to use aiming jewlery or melding for dexterity on a tank unless your testing this. acc/parry/vit are still our important stats.

[Parz3val]

Dexterity improves blocking rate for a Paladin... it is in fact, much better.

[SarcasmMisser]

Dexterity improves blocking rate for a Paladin... it is in fact, much better.

You remind me of this BLM who asked why I was using i110 masterwork weapon over tidal wave staff because "the stats aren't as good". You're sacrificing vit for det. Too many people read some min maxing meta talk and greatly outweigh its importance.