Need roll not possible.

[Highlanderx]

Imo, if it list GLA and PLD they should be able to need it. I'd post it in bug section.

No point, its not a bug. Its not tank gear, so a tank can't need it. But its still a shield so they can equip it, that is all those class listing on gear is telling you, wo can equip it.

Going by your opinion, any DoW would be able to Need on almost anything(including Mage gear_, regardless of being Tank or DPS, while any DoM would be able could Need on only Mage gear but with no difference between Healers or DPS.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Most of your gear is dragoon gear and not meant for tanking. Try to find gear that has parry and VIT. This will increase your survivability. Not all tank gear has parry so also check the defensive stats. If a higher level item has lower defense this is likely because it is dragoon gear. All you jewelry at this level should have parry and VIT.

[Alistaire]

It's quite clear the stats are for a caster, I never wrote that I wanted that shield. I wrote that I couldn't roll need on it...

edit : Thanks to the people the explained it, and not so much to those whos post makes no sense.

pot...kettle, etc

[Cadwgan]

It's quite clear the stats are for a caster, I never wrote that I wanted that shield. I wrote that I couldn't roll need on it.

edit : Thanks to the people the explained it, and not so much to those whos post makes no sense.

You can't roll need on a piece of equipment that is not suited for your class, it seems you already knew why you couldn't need on it but were just attempting to be a lootwhore. If you were able to roll need just because you can equip it casters and healers would bitch up a storm as generic mage gear is all classes, also have fun getting accessories you actually need.

[mrHappy]

The shield itself is not important. That was just used in the screenshot since it was the item dropped from the last boss.
Meaning that I could take the screenshot like I did, without wasting the groups time doing so.

I didn't want that shield, I couldn't care less for it since it was clearly for a caster. So I had no intentions of rolling need on it.

The question was about the greyed out need button, since I didn't get that the game displays all classes that in theory can equip the item.
Had it only displayed the classes that would actually benefit from the stats, the casters, I would never had thought that I had stumbled onto a bug or may have changed something somewhere in some options by fault that made it so that I couldn't roll on gear at all.
Especially since it also happened on all other gear drops in the instance that either displayed GLA or disciple of war on them.

I even asked the group about it, and they couldn't give an answer so I came here.

[Kerberon]

The shield itself is not important. That was just used in the screenshot since it was the item dropped from the last boss.
Meaning that I could take the screenshot like I did, without wasting the groups time doing so.

I didn't want that shield, I couldn't care less for it since it was clearly for a caster. So I had no intentions of rolling need on it.

The question was about the greyed out need button, since I didn't get that the game displays all classes that in theory can equip the item.
Had it only displayed the classes that would actually benefit from the stats, the casters, I would never had thought that I had stumbled onto a bug or may have changed something somewhere in some options by fault that made it so that I couldn't roll on gear at all.
Especially since it also happened on all other gear drops in the instance that either displayed GLA or disciple of war on them.

I even asked the group about it, and they couldn't give an answer so I came here.

You're not getting it. Just because there is no restriction on strapping on a piece doesn't mean it's appropriate gear for the class, this applies to everything you're talking about. All the tool tip means is that you can equip it, not that you nessecarily should.

[mrHappy]

When I made this thread I didn't understand how it worked.

I then understood it after it was explained on page 1 of this thread. I even thanked people for explaining it.

Yet there were still people writing after that, that were only thinking that I wanted that shield.
So I made another post explaining what it did.

In earlier instances I could roll on gear that had GLA on it, gear with strength, vit and other stats.
The suddenly I come into an instance where I can't roll on any gear, even gear with those stats.
Is it then wrong to think that something had possible bugged or I had tampered with something I shouldn't.

So I came here asking for help, someone to hopefully tell if it was a bug or somehting I did. Or a third possibility.

[Clavaat]

-snip-

A lot of early gear has All Classes as the Required Class. That's why you were able to Need on them (that's an important distinction, you can Greed on anything, but you can only Need on gear from your Class). As you go along, gear will be more Class or Job-specific. So no, you didn't do anything wrong and it wasn't a bug, that's just how the loot rules are. You can still try your luck on Greed, for other jobs.

[Urthdigger]

Well, something to keep in mind is that both tank and melee gear will have strength and vit. Tank gear typically has far higher defense though, and can only be rquipped by gla/mrd/pld/war. A fair amount of gear has lnc/drg on it as well, and I believe the system gets finicky here. That gear is typically the best for lnc/drg, but it's also sometimes the only tanky set that isn't outdated. So, the system does still need some work there.