It had been known for quite some time that Frontlines was going to be faction based pvp, why didn't people pay attention?




Is it based on individual or FC affiliation?


There should be 2 PvP ranks, the individual one, for the Wolf's den, and the Frontline one.
With Frontlines you chose a GC you side for. you fight against other GC's groups. Its Treehuggers vs Pirates vs Uldah
With Wolfs Den GC means nothing, you only go to the pit the stain the floor with the opponents blood. You don't get special recognition to down a Limsan or Gridanian as Uldahn. You don't get teamed up by "fraction" but random. You also can have a premade team that where everyone has a different GC affiliation.
Seperating them also would give everyone an equal chance. Frontlines Team of Rank 40 PVP vs PVP newbies vs mixture of all PVP ranks.
If the extras you get from PVP Rank point allocation do do anything in Frontlines, there is even less reason to stick the Rank fixed to GC.


So what you're saying is that despite the clear point I made above your post... the final decision is that there really is some magical PvP wizard who wipes out my memory and makes me forget all the PvP exp and skills I earned prior to switching GC allegiance?
Between this and the fact that actual PvP gear means nothing in Frontline (ie. Morale stat is null and void), you can expect that many players will ignore this new content. What a shame...

The current situation will be very restrictive when it comes to playing with friends. The entire point of content on this scale (and MMOs in general) is to be able to play with friends. Either the system needs to change so that we can switch to a GC with our friends with minimal penalties, or we need to be allowed to temporarily fight for a different GC with our friends in Frontlines.



Have discussed with a friend and maybe we missunderstand something...
Better lets see how it will work and then scream, dont judge before its been released.
We came to the conclusion that our FC does have that friendship thing to one GC and that overwrites the personal player GC choosing for Frontlines... not sure about, but thats the best solution we came up so far...
I don't think you're understanding the situation right now. Changing GC isn't the problem, having to LOSE our PVP ranks when we swap is the biggest deal right now.Greetings,
To coincide with the release of Frontline in patch 2.3, we’ll be changing the cool down period that you need to wait after changing your Grand Companies allegiance from 30 days to 15 days.
Aside from this, we currently don’t have any plans to make changes to how the system is currently set up.
For the people who already has a good amount of work put into PVP, are you really gonna just see them split off to do solo queues or force them to give up their ranks to play with their friends?


That's a good start but it's not enough. There's a reason why a lot of pvp fans are still holding out for Frontline to redeem FF14's horrible excuse of a Wolve's Den. We still remember how it took 3 months for an actual class balance patch and like 5 months for us to actually get all pvp skills at the start.Greetings,
To coincide with the release of Frontline in patch 2.3, we’ll be changing the cool down period that you need to wait after changing your Grand Companies allegiance from 30 days to 15 days.
Aside from this, we currently don’t have any plans to make changes to how the system is currently set up.
Are we going to have to repeat this process again? Please just link this thread over to the pvp team, translate it to JP, and make them read it over again. I don't want to hear how Frontline become a deadzone and you guys thinking you're doing a service to us by taking in our feedback 5 months later.


We are kind of holding out that it would lean toward FC affiliation and not individual as well. This would fix all the problem instantly but it's still stupid how vague they are with the queue requirement. Either way I would prepare for the worst and get ready for a mass FC change to one GC and be Yoshi's tool if you want to pvp together. So much for PVE not overlapping to PVP.Have discussed with a friend and maybe we missunderstand something...
Better lets see how it will work and then scream, dont judge before its been released.
We came to the conclusion that our FC does have that friendship thing to one GC and that overwrites the personal player GC choosing for Frontlines... not sure about, but thats the best solution we came up so far...
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