Make it so changing GC's doesn't reset your PvP Rank

[ExKage]

It isn't just a cooldown adjustment. If you're already PVPing getting to a high rank takes a few thousand PVP matches (not counting how many you actually need to -win-.

I'm only at Rank 16. I regularly have to wait 10-20min for just one match. At this moment I've done about 250 matches with about 70% win ratio.

I'm sorry but I'm not even willing to change Grand Companies at rank 16, let alone people who have been doing it to rank 30+

[Gokuhan]

That's fine so long as you permit us to Frontline alongside friends of different GC affiliation, FC mates or otherwise.

If by "alongside" you mean trying to kill each other, then yes. You'll probably have to rely on luck to make it through the DF at the same time though.

The entire concept of Frontlines is the 3 GCs fighting one another for their respective city-state. If you think people from different GC will be able to fight on the same side I would highly doubt that.

[Mortechai]

That's fine so long as you permit us to Frontline alongside friends of different GC affiliation, FC mates or otherwise.

You obviously wont be able to do that since frontlines pits each GC against the others.

[Parz3val]

That would defeat the whole purpose of Frontlines, if GC's didn't matter. He already said it was just a cooldown adjustment, which is great IMO because all my GC's were maxed and could never decide which was my favorite.

You'd really be happy if you & your friends were Rank 30+ in different GC's, thus forcing some of you to switch GC's to Frontline together... beginning all over again at Rank 1?

Do you have any idea the grind required to get to 40? To forsake that for the sake of Frontlining with my friends is an absurd requirement.

[Parz3val]

Not to mention the 5:1 win-loss ratio reward disparity being so harmful to the system.

Winners stay winners by a landslide in short order.

Especially assisting cheats/win-traders in pummeling those who try to rank legitimately.

Rank 30 & beyond, I keep getting these full win-traded teams in Rank 40 sets who get off on beating up lesser ranks for more r40 gear.

It's so utterly imbalanced.

[melflomil]

The Twin Adder will own on Gilgamesh. That is...

[Yumi_umi]

The Twin Adder will own on Gilgamesh. That is...

If you wanna have an easy time winning, join the immortal flames as a lot of die hard / hardcore pvpers are immortal flames on the adamantoise server.
So is this an oversight or is it as intended as what if most of the good pvpers on a server all decide to join 1 GC so that when they Q they will have a very good chance of playing together. So in return that 1 GC team will be stacked in 8/10 battles?
If ppl are smart enough to organize win trading and seeing that SE kinda disregards it for the early half, what's going to stop em from doing so?
* assuming that FL won't be cross servers.

[KenshinHomura]

Thing is the rank doesn't matter if morale gear you obtain for rank 30+ doesn't matter in Frontlines either, so why does rank matter so much for your point Parz? It doesn't matter either to complain about it neither, if they already said what is GOING to happen. I am glad it is GC competition like how it kind of was in FF11's Ballista.

[Baneus]

This thread demonstrates why adding PvP to any game is a bad idea.

[Zumocano]

Pong was PvP. Bad idea?

If some of you are choosing to not play with your friends because you invested so much of your valuable time into the grind that it is, I'm so sorry for you. As it stands, the PvP rank has no meaning other than fancy armor in that circle arena. PvP skills are unlocked and morale will have a limited effect in Frontlines. I'll venture a guess that Frontlines will provide a pretty good amount of PvP experience. With a good team of friends and the camaraderie provided by that would probably make the grind not that bad.

But the inherent issue is highlighted with this discussion. People don't play games for fun anymore. People play games because there are numbers in front of our face. Numbers that have to be maximized, minimized, theorycrafted as if we were Albert Einstein himself. Everyone is freaking out about these meaningless numbers in a virtual timesink world that gives you nothing of real world value. Play the game to have fun with your gdamn friends already.