Make it so changing GC's doesn't reset your PvP Rank

[Pibz]

The very reason that PvP in general has been challenging for them to put into this game is because it has to fit within the realm and lore of the game world. It has nothing to do with role playing really.

Hence why it's been developed as a competition between GC's, which would obviously have players supporting the GC's that they belong to, especially since PvP ranks, originally created with the Wolves Den, are tied to the GC you support.

So you basically saying it is good to cut the legs off a PvP game system with unnecessary restrictions because "It wouldn't fit the lore"?! Yeah that philosophy makes for some awesome design.
Also where did you even get that PvP has been challenging to introduce because it has to fit the game world?!?!?!?!?!?!??!? Like there needs to be some overarching insane story behind PvP, jesus.. people who want to pvp just want to PVP, it's about competition NOT the story behind it......

[ZephyrAM]

So you basically saying it is good to cut the legs off a PvP game system with unnecessary restrictions because "It wouldn't fit the lore"?! Yeah that philosophy makes for some awesome design.
Also where did you even get that PvP has been challenging to introduce because it has to fit the game world?!?!?!?!?!?!??!? Like there needs to be some overarching insane story behind PvP, jesus.. people who want to pvp just want to PVP, it's about competition NOT the story behind it......

If it wasn't challenging, the devs wouldn't have implemented it in the ways they did, would they?

And yes, I get that many PvP'ers just want the PvP and don't care about the details, but in the end, the devs aren't just going to shove a game element in if it doesn't make any sense, especially in a Final Fantasy game. WoW was easy: Alliance vs. Horde. It made sense, and they didn't have to do anything to excuse it. Some other games have had similar systems, but ARR isn't one of them. The devs 'will not' destroy the integrity of their game just to implement a mechanic, no matter what it is.

[Parz3val]

Point is: is it really worth it to prevent us from Frontlining with our friends just for the sake of immersion?

Lore-wise, the affiliation could be about GC bragging rights & pride -- a competition between GC's with Frontlines acting as war games.

It's not hard.

[Zaft]

While I do appreciate that the Dev team always tries to stay lore-conscious, things like this (restricting teams based on Grand Company and having separate PvP ranks for each Grand Company) really hinder PvP. If we look at other games with thriving PvP communities, it is because the PvP is easily accessible. Grab a friend, log in and go mess things up. By forcing us to be unable to play with our friends, there is even less of an incentive to PvP in an already rather dead PvP community, and that's very bad if Yoshida is actually serious about PvP being a "thing" in this game.

[Tridus1x]

I agree 110% with the OP. They have to remove these GC restrictions in order to play with friends.

The entire point of group stuff in an MMO is to be able to play with friends. I just don't see why anyone would support a system that tries to break people up.

[Nekodar]

I agree 110% with the OP. They have to remove these GC restrictions in order to play with friends.

The entire point of group stuff in an MMO is to be able to play with friends. I just don't see why anyone would support a system that tries to break people up.

Plenty of games "prevent" people from grouping up at all because they're in different factions.

And really... You can change change GC affiliation to whichever your friends are in if you're so unhappy having to fight for the GC you're currently in.

[Tridus1x]

Plenty of games "prevent" people from grouping up at all because they're in different factions.

And really... You can change change GC affiliation to whichever your friends are in if you're so unhappy having to fight for the GC you're currently in.

Or they can remove GC restrictions. See what I did there?

I never said I'm unhappy with the GC I'm in. I said I'm unhappy not being able to play with friends(one of the reasons to stay in an MMO in the first place) that are in a different GC.

Please answer this question. Why do you support a system that breaks-up friends? What if this were for dungeons queues or coil?

[Nekodar]

Or they can remove GC restrictions. See what I did there?

I never said I'm unhappy with the GC I'm in. I said I'm unhappy not being able to play with friends(one of the reasons to stay in an MMO in the first place) that are in a different GC.

Please answer this question. Why do you support a system that breaks-up friends? What if this were for dungeons queues or coil?

With the Frontlines zone being an area that all three GC's want control over, if you mix people freely from the three GC's for each team, how do you determine which GC is currently in control of it after a match?
In what way does it make sense in-game to have mixed teams the way you want for this particular instance of PvP?

You just want PvP period, screw actually having GC's mean anything? Screw having the PvP actually mean something in-game?
Maybe they'll add what you (and others) want some day.

[AiChyan]

You just want PvP period, screw actually having GC's mean anything? Screw having the PvP actually mean something in-game?
Maybe they'll add what you (and others) want some day.

This won't impact me personally in any way since I never bothered PVPing before. But I think the main problem is that the switch means the reset of PVP points, and no one wants to go through the horrible grind (due to long queues and low marks) to get points for the new GC.

[Taruranto]

Meh, it's a theme park, there is no immerse word here, it's not vana, let people do what the people want Yoshi.