Relic Questline about 30% too much IMHO

[cbreezy]

thanks you all im going to do it as soon as i get in

[Zarzak]

Zenith, given how much Myth is required everyone else now, 600 Myth would be just perfect I think.

Atma's, 9 would've felt just right imo.

Overall I agree but....

for the Zenith that would place it cheaper than legs/bp which IMO it shouldn't be (since weapon is single largest upgrade you can get) so 900 seems right to me. Also that is 3 days of doing your dailies which isn't bad.
Atma I don't think the # is the problem but the method. I'm fine with RNG but I feel the way it is introduced for the atma is flawed.

1. We already feel insulted with the tedious task of doing things like LEVEL 4 FATES. Make it a rare spawn level 50 FATE in each zone that has say a 20% drop rate and I'd be much happier personally.

2. The tedium causes many people to not even try just because they go out their 1st try and spend 4 hours spamming level 4 fates and see 0 progress.


The myth for the books/alex are really the only things that I just hate. If we were getting myth at the same rate we were getting philo sure. But we aren't. Doing 5000 dungeons runs (or taking so long with dailies that by the time you get the animus/novus 3 more steps have been added) is a problem. I'm suffering through it. But id sell my kidney to actually have a EPIC quest (like EQ or FFXI). Where I felt I was DOING something instead of just farming ilvl 50 dungeons until my eyes bleed.

[Kiara1]

I'm working on novus for my white mage and I'm about to start my first book on my summoner.
The only thing I really agree with in this post is that the books are too much. The rest is fine

[NorthernLadMSP]

I have finished my Animus for white mage, and done two melds for Novus. I personally believe that 800 Myth for ONE map/Alexandrite is ridiculous. I also began my scholar Animus and completed the first book last night. Because of this, I won't be spending a single Myth on maps I have scholar Animus in hand.

[Giantbane]

I have finished my Animus for white mage, and done two melds for Novus. I personally believe that 800 Myth for ONE map/Alexandrite is ridiculous. I also began my scholar Animus and completed the first book last night. Because of this, I won't be spending a single Myth on maps I have scholar Animus in hand.

Trying to novus whm & sch?

You're insane.

[Giantbane]

So... tonnes of grade IV or water down your build... sweet.

Secondary stats have a very small benefit on a point for point basis (except maybe piety for WHM and crit for SCH & BRD) . Whether you are willing to drop millions to get those last few points in the "best" stat instead of getting a few more points in another stat which is decent (but not quite as good) is entirely up to you. It's nice that they at least made it a choice instead of requiring a bunch of Tier IV with no alternative.

[Ecks007]

The only thing I remotely agree on is that the Atma drop rates are too low and should be raised. Otherwise, everything else is fine.

Novus takes less time to complete than getting the Animus and the Animus doesn't take that long, just takes some dedication. Don't be lazy.

So... tonnes of grade IV or water down your build... sweet.

This is not accurate.

You just need 11 Tier 4 materia for 1 stat, minimum. More if you start failing to attach the materia after 96% and below (which is after your first 6 100% attachments).

It's not as bad as some people are making it seem. These are relics and it's not meant to be something you can just blaze through and get (though.. some people have no-lifed it already and completed the Novus).

Me? I'm 25/75 with 2 maps in my inventory that'll I'll do tomorrow and a bit over 1k myth to get another map. It really isn't that difficult. I've just been doing it casually working on it while doing the dailies I already do every day. (2-3hrs on workdays, more on my days off)

[Parz3val]

Much of the problem lies in the RNG. If I could reliably get a second set of Atma in another 'reasonable' amount of time or earn those Grade IV's via Spirit Bonding in a similar timeframe or graft them on with a consistent success rate or find those FATE's luckily soon after I've arrived... that would be something.

But the fact alone doing Atma over could take me (hyperbole) between 5 & 100 hours... is enough to kill my interest altogether.

[Fendred]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop requesting them to nerf evertything. I really enjoy the fact that not everyone will have their relic upgraded. I think it's part of what makes the weapon unique. If your not willing to put in the time/effort to upgrade the weapon you don't deserve it.

I won't argue against that, but I think it would have been better if we had to fill up some kind of exp bar as we did fates for animus instead of praying to the RNG gods. Right now some people will get their atma in 4 hours while others don't get it for 20 hours. To me that seems pretty lopsided and needs more consistency.

[Ricky]

The length of them is fine if we weren't doing the same thing all the way through. We grind FATEs so we can grind myths so we can grind FATEs and myths. FUN!