Relic Questline about 30% too much IMHO

[Giantbane]

So... tonnes of grade IV or water down your build... sweet.

Secondary stats have a very small benefit on a point for point basis (except maybe piety for WHM and crit for SCH & BRD) . Whether you are willing to drop millions to get those last few points in the "best" stat instead of getting a few more points in another stat which is decent (but not quite as good) is entirely up to you. It's nice that they at least made it a choice instead of requiring a bunch of Tier IV with no alternative.

[LunarEmerald]

Today I had 5 failures on my last tier III determination. 50% chance of success and 5 consecutive failures.

Yeah... I'm not touching the tier IVs.

[Taaku]

When i first started the atma grind, i thought to myself that it would be cool if doing a fate that pertained to the name of the atma such as doing an water-type monster fate for "Atma of the water bearer" would have a higher drop rate. (not that i know what FATE that would be for each area lol)

The books are fine imo, you can practically get a book every two~three days through roulette's and maybe a dungeon or two.

i'm not on Novus yet, so I can't really say much about it. cept that im most likely going to avoid the teir IV route for now. :x

[Skander]

I agree that the grind is ok the way it is. Warrior of Light or not, having an armory chest filled to the brim with fully upgraded novus relics feels a little cheap to me. Plus it gives me something to do while I wait on my friends to get to endgame. Having a little more diversity in rewards for various content would be nice, though. A handful of myth for some lv50 fates would be nice.

[silentwindfr]

me i will ask something, we know that new jobs is coming and that the relic quest will continue for a long time...
i will take the example of the ninja, since it come soon. some people will switch of main, with the arrival of the ninja, do you really believe that this person will want to redo one more time the whole stuff?

i can fairly understand that some stuff need to be long to get... but there it's way too borderline. it was possible to do it better and not involve soo much grind. Alukah is right, this game motto is one character a lot of jobs... sadly the relic, that it's a way to continue the story of the class have become horrible. with the add of new class, less and less people will do it. (or people with a tons of play time)

for me the relic quest grind is not different of a jobs, it's empty of any fun, and i want to remember you people that: FF14 is a game and you play a game for the fun!

[Vaer]

me i will ask something, we know that new jobs is coming and that the relic quest will continue for a long time...
i will take the example of the ninja, since it come soon. some people will switch of main, with the arrival of the ninja, do you really believe that this person will want to redo one more time the whole stuff?

By the time the new jobs are released, at least the atma/animus portion of the quest will most likely be nerfed. Ninja is releasing in the same patch as the 3rd turn of coil, a new tier. They said they might possibly change the quest when the item level goes up.

Sure it might still take a bit to do, but probably not as bad as right now. This is going on the assumption that there will be a new tombstone to replace soldiery when it gets uncapped and myth is retired.

There will most likely always be alternatives to the relic, other weapons that you can get from the patch content that they release like coil, or primals. The relic quest line is there to fill in holes if you can't get the other weapons.

Not that I disagree that the atma/animus quest is boring, but what you might not find fun, other people might.

[Viridiana]

There will most likely always be alternatives to the relic, other weapons that you can get from the patch content that they release like coil, or primals. The relic quest line is there to fill in holes if you can't get the other weapons.

There will always be alternatives, yes, but some of us would like to keep the relic itself up to date. Yes, I know that a weathered Rosenbogen would beat the Artemis Bow Animus, and so would a Tidal Wave Bow. And yes, I know that the High Allagan Composite Bow is Best in Slot. The odds of my being able to find time to raid seriously during this tier of content are slim, though, so I'd like to get the best bow I can outside of raids. That's the Novus. But the odds of my finding motivation to finish the book grind and start the Alexandrite grind are also pretty lacking. I mean, if I were to do it all throug BF SRs, it'd take me 173 more runs to get the remaining books. Granted, I'll be doing roulette to mix it up, but you can only do one of each roulette per day, and that often doesn't take long, leaving the rest of my playtime as "huh, what to do now?"

[Kimikryo]

Apart from the hideous Atma Farming by fates with ABSOLUTE random chance of getting your drop.

You don't want to do those farms for those weapons? Farm Leviathan, Farm Second Coil, Get Soldery Weathered weapons.

I still think the "relic" was way to easy at the beginning and that we should get A LOT MORE, crafteable weapons that do their job, with the relic showing who really likes to invest time.

FFXI relic, if you think the FFXIV one is bad and tedious to get, think again.

[silentwindfr]

I still think the "relic" was way to easy at the beginning and that we should get A LOT MORE, crafteable weapons that do their job, with the relic showing who really likes to invest time.

this relic was easy to get, because people from the V1 had it for ages, and was not means to be the last weapon for age! that why they did put it soo fast to get, even if i think that the zenith part was an error and i will have loved more quest for this.

i think they need to add us challenge specialy designed for the relic! maybe even solo, duo, group and raid fight for this, the grind is not fun!

and i will never say it enough, the gears are not the purpose, but a means to reach the purpose... the goal it's to beat content, the weapon is not the end, only a way to be able to face harder content!

[Taruranto]

FFXI relic, if you think the FFXIV one is bad and tedious to get, think again.

Uneven comparion.

FFXI relic was an exceptional weapon that basically made you super-special, gave you the best weapon that was going to last forever in the game and an extra skill. Also, only the most hardcore players did it, because it was aimed at them.

FFXIV is... the second best weapon in the game, for now. Which given the vertical progression of the game, it means it's shit. It doesn't give you any special kill like the one in XI did. Everyone does it because the game has little content other than that and coil, it's the only "long time" goal people can do.

Basically, Yoshi didn't understand anything about FFXI relic quest and the gear design.