Tank disrespect.

[Kydi]

Like I said, in the example the tank is trying his hardest. I think we can assume tying means they have read up on the class a bit and know roughly what's going on.

I said that players should be forgiving in low level content (by that I mean pretty much any pre-50). In pretty much any MMO the leveling content is there to gradually introduce mechanics to players and prepare them for the real game, endgame. Players who go into low level roulette have to realise that they hey are likely to have someone who hasn't done it, perhaps who isn't confident in their role, or perhaps just isn't very good. If that's going to be a problem, don't do it. If people want consistently high calibre players all the time, then they should find a static.

Regarding how players react to guiding, who knows until you try? Even if a player has read their skills, they may not apply them if unfamiliar with the way the game works. Gladiator running in and just flashing, suggest they use shield lob whilst running in. I expect 4/5 players would listen and start, probably thank you for the advice too. Obviously you will get the odd one who won't listen, and that's a different conversation, but this attitude of having to understand and apply every bit of the class when someone new probably just went "ooh, sword and shield looks cool" is detrimental to the community.

And on that note, I suspect I've hit the post limit for the day.

[AlexPayne]

LOL @ read guides and learn all about the game before you play it. Where the hell did the fun in games go? May as well just read about games than play them, if this is the ridiculous route people want to take.

[Mjytresz]

Where the hell did the fun in games go?

I was a big fan of this ideology until about 10 years ago when I stepped into my first party.
There's a lot of fun to be had in games. Reading a guide doesn't make you a professional. Similarly, getting matched with someone who knows nothing of his class or role isn't fun for the 3 other people who are stuck with you. If you're queueing as a DPS, that's a good 10+ minute wait that just went to waste because of an incompetent tank.
I recently started partying with a WAR. Went into my first dungeon with only general experience of tanking in various other games. The results were relatively disastrous. I had no idea how to manage my TP and, as a result, found myself running dry when I needed to OP a pack.
Didn't take more than browsing a guide to learn the basics of TP and a few minutes of practice to effectively use it.

tl;dr if being an idiot is fun for you than do it on your own time