Tank disrespect.

[Ceodore]

As soon as he left, I apologized for the drama and resummoned Eos. We had another DPS within a minute or two. If people aren't going to play nice, I'm certainly not going to enable their behavior.

I would like to point out at this point to any DPS that might see this. DPS are a dime a dozen. There is no composition requirements for any of the regular dungeons. YOU DO NOT run the raid. YOU DO NOT call the shots. YOU DO NOT make the rules. YOU ARE NOT special. In fact, YOU ARE as replaceable as a 50 cent light bulb. "We had another DPS within a minute of two" About the time it takes to replace a light bulb. DPS learn to not focus on one target, watch your enmity meters, the tab button is there not just so you can switch from one dead mobs to a live one, your DOTs do more damage when they are on more than one mob at a time, your AOE is generally worth more when there are 3+ mobs, and your healer has enough on their plate healing the tank, they don't need your dumb ass taking aggro and taking damage, so watch yourself before you wreck yourself. Your armor is paper thin and your HP is next to worthless compared to those of us tanks that actually are built for taking damage, so either learn your place or my healer (Who is not the person I quoted above, but they are a lot alike) WILL let your idiotic ass die. You aren't cool, and you aren't getting a commendation when you act stupid.

[HulveinBlitz]

Stuff

A few bad experiences, aren't enough to generalize all DPS as worthless.

Which is the stench your post is giving off.

[Naryoril]

In fact, YOU ARE as replaceable as a 50 cent light bulb.

Try to find a normal, cheap light bulb in Europe. If you find one, please tell me where.

[Aloreal]

Try to find a normal, cheap light bulb in Europe. If you find one, please tell me where.

Cyprus. about 40 cents each

[Benolan]

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That post is about as useful as me going on about tanks who can't keep aggro against WHM regen (mid fight, not the start) or don't use flash. By all means, do your runs without the healers or DPS who all apparently pale to your awesomeness.

[AlexPayne]

Disrespect gets tossed around to everyone, regardless of role. Mostly due to many people thinking they have the ONLY way of doing things, and a total lack of communication.

Examples:

1. Tank pulls whole dungeon, marking nothing. During the mad dash, there are some straggling mobs that don't immediately clump at the killzone. A BLM uses AoE, hitting a couple that arrive a split second too late, and they rush to him. Tank blames BLM. BLM blames tank. Neither had noticed or planned for the stragglers.

2. Healer likes to sleep mobs. SMN likes to use Bane. Neither knows what the other is planning, so DoTs get Baned onto a sleeping mob or two, and wakes them up. SMN blames WHM, WHM blames SMN.

3. Tank isn't all that geared or experienced, and is trying to improve. Synced SCH just goes full DPS, letting Eos heal, which is overpowered for, say, Satasha, so Eos keeps getting smacked. SCH blames tank, tank blames SCH. Neither knew what the other was going to be doing.

Getting on the same page at the start would prevent a lot of drama.

[Enyeto]

Examples:

1. During the mad dash, there are some straggling mobs that don't immediately clump at the killzone. A BLM uses AoE, hitting a couple that arrive a split second too late, and they rush to him. Tank blames BLM. BLM blames tank.

2. Healer likes to sleep mobs. SMN likes to use Bane. Neither knows what the other is planning, so DoTs get Baned onto a sleeping mob or two, and wakes them up. SMN blames WHM, WHM blames SMN.

3. Tank isn't all that geared or experienced, and is trying to improve. Synced SCH just goes full DPS, letting Eos heal, which is overpowered for, say, Satasha, so Eos keeps getting smacked. SCH blames tank, tank blames SCH.

It's obviously the Healers fault, not keeping the BLM alive, Mezzing mobs people are attacking, and Eos is still confused on which sock goes on what foot...

[Llyren]

Examples:

1. During the mad dash, there are some straggling mobs that don't immediately clump at the killzone. A BLM uses AoE, hitting a couple that arrive a split second too late, and they rush to him. Tank blames BLM. BLM blames tank.

2. Healer likes to sleep mobs. SMN likes to use Bane. Neither knows what the other is planning, so DoTs get Baned onto a sleeping mob or two, and wakes them up. SMN blames WHM, WHM blames SMN.

3. Tank isn't all that geared or experienced, and is trying to improve. Synced SCH just goes full DPS, letting Eos heal, which is overpowered for, say, Satasha, so Eos keeps getting smacked. SCH blames tank, tank blames SCH.

Getting on the same page at the start would prevent a lot of drama.

Some communication sure

If the Tank dies then Healers fault.
If the Healer dies then Tanks fault.
If the dps dies then their own fault.

1) Bad pulls happen, but your fireball is still your fireball. Kick dps if drama.
2) Solved by communication. Kick dps if drama.
3) No Death, no Foul. If Scholar dies Tanks fault. If Eos dies re-summon. Abandon if drama.

[SeraviEdalborez]

2. Healer likes to sleep mobs. SMN likes to use Bane. Neither knows what the other is planning, so DoTs get Baned onto a sleeping mob or two, and wakes them up. SMN blames WHM, WHM blames SMN.

If sleeping mobs woke up, it was not because of Bane.

[Ashkendor]

I would like to point out at this point to any DPS that might see this. DPS are a dime a dozen. There is no composition requirements for any of the regular dungeons. YOU DO NOT run the raid. YOU DO NOT call the shots. YOU DO NOT make the rules. YOU ARE NOT special. In fact, YOU ARE as replaceable as a 50 cent light bulb. "We had another DPS within a minute of two" About the time it takes to replace a light bulb. DPS learn to not focus on one target, watch your enmity meters, the tab button is there not just so you can switch from one dead mobs to a live one, your DOTs do more damage when they are on more than one mob at a time, your AOE is generally worth more when there are 3+ mobs, and your healer has enough on their plate healing the tank, they don't need your dumb ass taking aggro and taking damage, so watch yourself before you wreck yourself. Your armor is paper thin and your HP is next to worthless compared to those of us tanks that actually are built for taking damage, so either learn your place or my healer (Who is not the person I quoted above, but they are a lot alike) WILL let your idiotic ass die. You aren't cool, and you aren't getting a commendation when you act stupid.

Eh... I wouldn't go that far at all. I try not to even joke with my DPS friends that DPS are faceless and replaceable, because I don't want them to feel that way. There are people behind every one of those DPS characters, and I can't bring myself to trivialize them that way. Good DPS are extremely valuable to me. There's all kinds of ways you can be good DPS: the DRG/MNK that stuns annoying skills, the SMN that resses your healer, the BLM that knows when to toss an Apocastasis on the tank, heck even just knowing when to back off and let the tank establish control or taking the initiative to pull an add off the healer so they can stop kiting and make with the healy-goodness. Yes, bad DPS are annoying and disruptive, but so are bad tanks and bad healers. It has nothing to do with the role that they're in and everything to do with just plain having a bad player in your party.

In the early dungeons, anyone basically CAN tank as long as the healer is paying attention. Those dungeons are very forgiving because they're learning tools to define your roles in the party. If the tank had been terrible, I wouldn't have minded the DRG taking the initiative to tank things; the fact is, he wasn't. The tank was doing alright and was obviously trying, so running ahead and pulling even when asked not to do it was just douchey.