Vote dismissal refining is needed.

[Altaeciana]

The topic pretty much says it all. The Vote Dismissal system needs to be refined.

In this post, I will go over the following:

1. Why refine the system?
2. What mayhaps is cause for a notion to refine it soon?
3. Possible solutions to mitigate abuse/misuse.
4. Concluding remarks. (If any)

Why refine the system?

The system needs to be refined in order to prevent misuse of vote dismissals. It is far too easy to dismiss someone and not even the appropriate provided reason needs to be selected. The initializer (person starting the vote) simply needs to get it going and others que in with their casted votes.

[Altaeciana]

What mayhaps is the cause for a notion to refine it soon?

Let me start be explaining that vote dismissal gives a party/group the freedom to progress through content should something go awry. Such as losing a member via Error 90000 who subsequently does not return in a timely manner. Vote dismissal is a utility-based function in this case.

So then let me ask, is vote dismissal a means to control who gets to be in a group and who doesn't in any aspect or scenario? This is precisely where the line must be drawn between proper usage and abuse/misuse.

Too often vote dismissal is being used to remove individuals that are simply "not liked" because they are under-performing in ability or said something that was not even remotely "rude" sounding. These attitudes and perceptions are leading to unwarranted abuse/misuse.

[Altaeciana]

Possible solutions to mitigate abuse/misuse.

More stringent enforcement on vote dismissal's abuse/misuse. This means more active review of information logs, persistent punishment issuance, and more frequent reminders. Though this may reduce the statistics by a little bit at a time, it helps nonetheless. However, it is probably the least favorable solution.

[Altaeciana]

Enhanced UI based menu system. Add more reasons to select from when starting a vote dismissal. This will should include something that will be a sort of "self-signing" agreement option. For example, the current reasons provided are "AFK, Offline, Harassment, Cheating." Add a fifth that maybe is called "Suspected Inappropriate Behavior." Selecting this should prompt the initiator with a message like:

"By choosing 'Suspected Inappropriate Behavior' you understand the submitted vote dismissal will be submitted for review. Should you be found guilty of misusing Vote Dismiss, you agree to be subjected to appropriate consequences that will follow."

By confirming the message and continuing on with the dismissal process, this should act as a deterrent in which that individual will be given one last chance to change their mind.

[Altaeciana]

Concluding remarks. (If any)

Some may consider arguments over the validity of certain vote dismissals to be trivial and/or insignificant. But some consider it as unfair play. Everyone deserves to be able to participate in content despite level of ability. Growth starts somewhere and somehow. Everyone also deserves to be intelligently analyzed as disruptive or not. Simply not liking a person because they exhume an aura of unfriendliness is not a reason to vote dismiss. Nothing has happened yet, unless it does end up becoming a case of "verbal" harassment.

Reasons such as "I have little patience/tolerance for bigotry" is insufficient reason to vote dismiss and coincides with the abuse/misuse terms of not adhering to the vote dismissal's provided reasons.

[DoctorPepper]

Just letting you know that if you edit your post you're able to exceed the 1000 char limit and would only need 1 post for all of this.

On another note, I have done hundreds of solo duties and have only ever had to deal with 1 issue where vote kick was abused so I don't really think that changes are necessary based on personal experience. Not to say that others may not experience more of this but in my opinion the system is generally working as intended. If this was happening to me more often I would probably agree but so far it seems like a very small issue in a large pool of bigger issues.

[joshsecret]

inb4 someone says u can edit... darn it too late

[Altaeciana]

I apologize for what may appear as "spam" or unnecessary. I don't post much on here, and when I do it is usually to attempt to make a stance on fairness with the game. Just as I am trying to enjoy my time with the game and community, I am sure others are trying to do the same. But it doesn't seem to be without the constant self-motivating GM-wannabes that think they can control how the game should be played. We all like winning, we all want stuff for our character(s) and account, and we all want our time to mean something or be worth the while. But I draw the line when people are victimized unfairly because an existing system was used in a way that was not intended merely to suit the end-goals of someone else.

Also, as a minor side-effect, if my proposed suggestion passes, it could mean fewer people being penalized for using certain systems wrongfully. Which can also lead to less grief and frustration. A lot of individuals tend to just do things on a whim without thinking ahead as to how it may later impact them. As they say, "karma is a b****." (well, I'm sure they say it differently perhaps).

[Vittorino]

I have a remedy, stop getting dismissed from your party for some awkward reason. Change the way you play or if it is in regards to someone else help them change to best accommodate the group. Thus would negate anyone from getting kicked. Solved without getting kicked lol.

[Altaeciana]

I have a remedy, stop getting dismissed from your party for some awkward reason. Change the way you play or if it is in regards to someone else help them change to best accommodate the group. Thus would negate anyone from getting kicked. Solved without getting kicked lol.

Not to oust you or anything like that, but you can't simply tell someone to "play better" when they lackadaisically play their role. You will see many inexperienced people as you join a random group. Note the key word "random" here. And sure enough, they might be someone who spams Flash instead of Overpower as a Warrior. Or maybe they are someone who spams Straight Shot as a Lv50 ARC. Whatever the case, these are not appropriate reasons to remove someone. That is what constitutes as abuse with vote dismissal. Using the system as not intended. The best things to be done here is to try and do a quick mentoring or simply not take your chances with a random grouping. No one told you to join a random group and become infuriated or frustrated.

However, in the case of disruptive players. Your words speak truth. Changing the way one interacts on a communicative level can certainly lead to fewer unsightly removals. But it is here that I argue in which many things said are open to interpretation. And it is often the disgusted interpretations that are immediately taken into consideration which ultimately leads to a removal. If in my group there is a healer who isn't geared out to do 1000 hp value heals with Cure 1, calling him/her a muggle might be considered harassment, or it will humor them. But if I simply announce that the group isn't going to beat the event with how it is currently, this can be taken into consideration as "unnecessary negativity." Something like this is often a reason why I see people get abused by the system. They're not directly ousting someone. But they're immediately a "negative Nancy."