Mr. Producer... You make me a sad panda :(

[KiraJ]

Did you forget? You're a test subject. The game isn't 'going backwards' because it's not really released yet. SE see the PS3 release as the official one, until then you're playing a beta.

Yea you discovered their evil plan

[HappyWappy]

Did you forget? You're a test subject. The game isn't 'going backwards' because it's not really released yet. SE see the PS3 release as the official one, until then you're playing a beta.

A BETA that I payed $50 for. I think that gives us atleast SOME right to expect a playable game even though I admit we should not expect overnight to have a perfect game.

[GreatLeviathan]

Virtually all forms of exp have been nerfed to a ridiculous degree. And I find your letter to us hypocritical at best, quoted directly:

"The Future of Ranking Up
Ever since I posted on the forums, we’ve been receiving feedback from players worrying about whether or not we’re going to be nerfing the ranking up process. The simple and emphatic answer to this, just as I posted in the forums, is no."

Hippocracy at its finest, as you of course did not INCREASE the till next levels, you however lowered the xp received from quests, mobs, behest, and leve's to such a degree that you essentially doubled or tripled the TNL's without actually changing them.

I want to be very straight with you Mr. Producer sir. You cannot make such a progressive move such as adding auto attack in, then take 20 steps backwards by making it so horrible to level up people will quickly lose patience with the game.

I for one doubt I will be playing this game any longer. My friends are attempting to drag me up in the ranks, as soloing only yields 70-120 skill per mob that I can effectively kill... but I don't know if this game is worth the effort. Especially when you continue in your predecessors footsteps and make unwarranted changes that only make the game less desirable to play.

With the economical downturn, and your obvious lack of ability to move this game in the right direction... I do not see much of a future for FF14.

You mister are an *****.
The game is great and i love the autoattack.
Those who know how to play a game don't lose any Exp like you claim.
Maybe you should stay at the 5yr old class games.

[GreatLeviathan]

Immature? Lol im not complaining about a game now am i or putting up "Mr. Producer... You make me a sad panda " like a 5 year old that doesnt get a lollypop.
Just play it if you dont like it play something else.. plain and simple issnt it ?

[Betelgeuzah]

Sounds good to me.

The producer did say (although it was not officially translated as such) that the exp gains may see a short-term drop as the game takes its intended shape. That is exactly what is happening.

Now you can either QQ about this short-term hindrance while the game is being taken to the right direction, or you can quit. Which would be hilarious now that improvements are finally being made. But alas.

You don't need to be a wizard to realize that as the SP is divided between different activities instead of being exclusive to only one, the activity losing the exclusivity status is going to be toned down, while everything else will see improvements in SP gains. Right now that means quests and raids, later on that means stronghold battles, chocobo escorts and hamlet defense battles. These activities replace (or rather, complement) guildleves and the SP is divided among them.

Now, I myself had a preference for all activities having their own unique rewards (which means that when you do decide to level up, its fast, but exclusive to only one activity as the downside) but this will do. "Leveling up" is no longer exclusive to guildleves and behests, and the SP changes reflect this.

Oh yeah, and one can't really ignore the removal of fatigue either. Now that exp bonus will take its place, casuals are going to be the ones suffering from the change. Fatigue hurt hardcore population, exp bonus hurts the casual population.

And the community rejoices, haha.

[MookiesPM75]

Sounds good to me.

The producer did say (although it was not officially translated as such) that the exp gains may see a short-term drop as the game takes its intended shape. That is exactly what is happening.

Now you can either QQ about this short-term hindrance while the game is being taken to the right direction, or you can quit. Which would be hilarious now that improvements are finally being made. But alas.

You don't need to be a wizard to realize that as the SP is divided between different activities instead of being exclusive to only one, the activity losing the exclusivity status is going to be toned down, while everything else will see improvements in SP gains. Right now that means quests and raids, later on that means stronghold battles, chocobo escorts and hamlet defense battles. These activities replace (or rather, complement) guildleves and the SP is divided among them.

Now, I myself had a preference for all activities having their own unique rewards (which means that when you do decide to level up, its fast, but exclusive to only one activity as the downside) but this will do. "Leveling up" is no longer exclusive to guildleves and behests, and the SP changes reflect this.

Oh yeah, and one can't really ignore the removal of fatigue either. Now that exp bonus will take its place, casuals are going to be the ones suffering from the change. Fatigue hurt hardcore population, exp bonus hurts the casual population.

And the community rejoices, haha.

As far as I can tell... He's basically padding the game by forcing you to do all forms of SP gain in order to get the same output you may have gotten from one activity alone rather than letting you choose what you want to do. Not a good thing in my book by any means, as one of the staples of any good MMO is choice. It's ironic and sad one of the headers in his latest letter is "Play how you like." That is clearly not the case in the current state of the game if you want to rank up sometime this year.

Look at it like this: He introduces a game changing mechanic alongside a game breaking nerf. People like me who came back excited about the new changes are completely turned off by the SP gimping. Further degrading our perception of this game ever bearing fruit. This is NOT something he should have done in the current state of the game without properly and fully implementing whatever idea he has for ranking up. He essentially used the introduction of auto-attack and instances as a cushion for a hefty nerf. It was honestly a bad move as he got people to come back only to find out the game is still unplayable.

All of you "hardcore" players may sit there and blindly praise this game to no end. But the cold hard facts are:

1) This game released in such a terrible state that they were forced to make it free to play till it was fixed.
2) It's been a year and there have only been MARGINAL improvements at best.
3) The Producer just spat in the faces of any player that returned upon hearing the introduction of auto-attack by making it virtual torture to rank up.
4) He clearly made a hypocritical move (in the current state of the game) by nerfing ranking up. And it might not have ticked people off as much if he had not made a post talking about how he was not going to nerf ranking up mere HOURS before the patch...
5) Square Enix is not a charity foundation. At the snail's pace the improvements are coming, there is a growing chance that they'll eventually cut their losses. The economy is in the can, I doubt they can afford to continue to bleed off cash developing a MMO that is literally going nowhere.

[Betelgeuzah]

As far as I can tell... He's basically padding the game by forcing you to do all forms of SP gain in order to get the same output you may have gotten from one activity alone rather than letting you choose what you want to do. Not a good thing in my book by any means, as one of the staples of any good MMO is choice.

You never had a choice to begin with, if that's your mindset. Nobody is forcing you to play the game the most effective way. And SE can not force you not to play the game that way.

The only options there are: Either there is one activity that yields the most SP or a combination of activities yields the most SP. There are no magical choices to be had as long as you want to progress most effectively.

People that have not experienced the previous progression system won't even have a problem to begin with.

Also... I dont understand why the SP normalization took place before the camps/settlements were fully introduced. Could this nerf not have been introduced in patch 1.19 at the same time as the camp quests lessening the negative impact on the perception of this game? Honestly the quests currently available are dependent on level, scarce, and they are OFTEN not worth the effort time/sp wise.

You could say the same about any addition. Unless you wanted to wait another few months, its not a practical solution, although a very effective one.

Honestly, look at it like this: He introduces a game changing mechanic alongside a game breaking nerf (that may have future implications but for now it's a nerf). People like me who came back excited about the new changes being made are just being completely turned off by the SP gimping. This is NOT something he should have done, it will hurt the image of the game, and it will further increase the chances that this game falls through the cracks.

This game is a construction yard. And it will be for some time to come. Now is not a good time to start playing if this bothers you.

They could release everything at once, but they chose not to because it takes too long and the current population is bored. Everything they do has a downside, and someone will be upset. If this time it was you, I'm sorry for that.

At the end of the day the changes are moving this game to the intended direction, and that's all that matters at this point. You can choose to wait until the transformation is complete. You don't need the developers to stall the content until it is fully completed and working just so you have no choice but to sit in the sidelines.

[Deceptistar]

All of you "hardcore" players may sit there and blindly praise this game to no end. But the cold hard facts are:

1) This game released in such a terrible state that they were forced to make it free to play till it was fixed.
2) It's been a year and there have only been MARGINAL improvements at best.
3) The Producer just spat in the faces of any player that returned upon hearing the introduction of auto-attack by making it virtual torture to rank up.
4) He clearly made a hypocritical move (in the current state of the game) by nerfing ranking up. And it might not have ticked people off as much if he had not made a post talking about how he was not going to nerf ranking up mere HOURS before the patch...
5) Square Enix is not a charity foundation. At the snail's pace the improvements are coming, there is a growing chance that they'll eventually cut their losses. The economy is in the can, I doubt they can afford to continue to bleed off cash developing a MMO that is literally going nowhere.

tbh i think after the 1.18 patch its more the hardcore pple thats disgruntled.
Cause they were patient with high hopes and the first major long awaited patch kinda exploded in their face >.>