Length of time required to get PvP rewards vs. anything else

[Hiruke]

Even when doing win trading, it would take approximately 130 hours to get to Rank 40 and be able to wear all of the iLVL 100 PvP gear.

130 hours.

To put that in perspective, even many of the longest single player RPG games probably won't demand much more than 100 hours of your time, and arguably you're having fun and enjoying the story and the game play the entire way through.

Is PvP more fun than playing a single player RPG, then?

Well, no.

Another thing to keep in mind, is that if you do this in a legitimate manner, it will likely take 10 times as long, given that you'll have to deal with queues, losing, etc. That's 5+ months of spending 8 hours a day, every day, in order to get it done. I don't know about you, but I have better things to do with my time, especially since I would spend most of that time getting shredded by people who already have PvP gear. What fun!

Rather than making morale less valuable, or making actions that bypass morale, why not simply make the rewards take less time to get? Presumably the fun of PvP is actually, you know, playing PvP. Folks who quit PvP after getting the best armor clearly did it ONLY to get the armor, and not to actually play PvP. The armor should be very easy to get, and game play in PvP should be based on player skill, not who has spent the most time grinding out wolf marks to get gear.

Dev team seems to be headed in the wrong direction in terms of making the game way too grindy. Would like to see the dev team look more into easing the grind and making more fun content that people WANT to enjoy for long periods of time rather than trying to FORCE players to "enjoy" content for long periods of time because that's simply what's necessary to get desired items, even though the path to get those items is seen as a frustration rather than something fun.

[Kairgon]

I agreed with you, it do take a lot of times as right now it is. For some reason i really enjoy as how it has been since 2.1 released for pvp

Would like to see the dev team look more into easing the grind and making more fun content that people WANT to enjoy for long periods of time rather than trying to FORCE players to "enjoy" content for long periods of time because that's simply what's necessary to get desired items, even though the path to get those items is seen as a frustration rather than something fun.

And that's Frontline coming soon, I'm sure it'd be more fun than 4v4 where could be easily over in 30sec-2min ish. I think that might be good direction FOR crowd of player who dont like Wolf Dens at the moment.

[Darkoon]

I don't care that the rewards take a long time to get, I am completely fine with it. What I am not ok with are the extremely long queue times, I am averaging 4 to 5 matches an hour and I am only rank 25! As an example, I used a piece of food that had a 40 min duration with the FC buff, I could only complete 2 matches in that time, that is ridiculous!

[Nautica]

I heard the Gillionaire title will take 3 years to earn the achievement for.

[wicked-one]

Even when doing win trading, it would take approximately 130 hours to get to Rank 40 and be able to wear all of the iLVL 100 PvP gear.
130 hours.

Try the Novus Questline...

130 Hours of PVP is at least a full set of gear, not just 1 item...

[CeveArthu]

Try the Novus Questline...

130 Hours of PVP is at least a full set of gear, not just 1 item...

130 hours of pvp is if you wintrade, its more like 500+ hours, probably more if you do it legit

[wicked-one]

You play an MMO...

i don´t like the one, nor the other grindfest, but sometimes you have to take the bite...

no one is forced to play a video game...

[Kuwagami]

I don't care that the rewards take a long time to get, I am completely fine with it. What I am not ok with are the extremely long queue times, I am averaging 4 to 5 matches an hour and I am only rank 25! As an example, I used a piece of food that had a 40 min duration with the FC buff, I could only complete 2 matches in that time, that is ridiculous!

you're lucky then. I'm at 2 matches an hour max if I actually try to do PvP, as a tank

[Alistaire]

I heard the Gillionaire title will take 3 years to earn the achievement for.

Even that would probably be less than 130 hours actual playtime though; just limited by how often you can put time into it.

[CeveArthu]

You play an MMO...

i don´t like the one, nor the other grindfest, but sometimes you have to take the bite...

no one is forced to play a video game...

Everyone who posts in this section plays pvp because they enjoy it, we arnt forced into it

But when SE announces an expansion to the part of the game that we enjoy, then removes any form of progression that you had by making your pvp gear useless in a pvp gametype, of course people are going to be annoyed

I wouldn't mind if they nerfed morale for the sake of frontlines, but as it stands using pvp gear in a pvp mode will be a disadvantage, where is the logic in that?