How are the party finder groups on your server?

[TomTom1968]

Finding a party that is willing to learn together or finding a kill party is really not the easiest thing to do on Ragnarok. If I want to learn a fight and open a party and even describe that it's a learning party, people should be willing to do several runs, bring in some time and Patience, it never works. After merely 2 wipes, at least 1 guy is ragequitting. Over a learning party because it is no instant win.

When I join clear or win/kill parties, there are at least 2 players where you can tell that they have little to no experience. Why do these people join? Hoping for a carry? What happens most of the times is that the party breaks up after 2 wipes, just like the learning parties. I would NEVER join a kill/win party if I do not have said content on farm mode. It is just a waste of people's time. Highlight was a Ultima HM party months ago where people talked for like 10 minutes about Loot and then the group wiped before or on the 1st Aetherblow several times in a row till the ultimate "blame the other player" game began.

But also T5 is ridiculous. When there is a farm party, I expect a farm run. Like 1 run = 1 kill. Or maybe 2 runs = 1 kill. But that's it. I do not want people learning Twister movement or Conflag handling in such a run. But they come in like flies lol. Why? I will never understand. It becomes rather quickly obvious, especially in T5, who has kill experience and who doesn't. The ones who can't win it are flamed without end (which is not my style) so why do they join such runs at all? Do they like beeing flamed? Or really just hoping that the group will land a kill? Here is a secret: In T5 you need all 8 players for a win unless you have exceptional good players. One weak element is most of the time a showstopper for the entire party. So you won't get your win unless you answer the shouters in Mor Dhona who are good enough to sell it in a way that one dead player doesn't count.

Dunno how often I read on this Forum that everything is easy. Good for you, but for most people it is not. Endgame in this Game is designed for 5-10% of the player base. But far more people are trying to beat content that is not for them. And I can't blame them, everybody is curious and wants to see the new bosses and arenas. But the mechanics in this Game are so unforgiving that only a very small numbers of players can win the Endgame fights on a reliable base. Groups in Party finder and Duty finder are reflecting this perfectly day by day.

[Taika]

How are the party finder groups on my server, you ask...

[Kimikryo]

I really dislike this "not cleared means you don't know how to do it"
that is clearly wrong.

I haven't cleared T5 or Titan ex, nevertheless I know what I am supposed to do when. Twisters still confuse me a tiny bit, but still I know how and where (not) to run.

Than there are those that payed for their clear, so they have a clear does it mean they know what to do? Not necessarily .

[Demus]

Haven't had to join a PF group for any difficult content in over 6 months, and hopefully never will. They're pretty bad on my server.

[Firepower]

Well I remember about 6 (?) months ago when the EX primals came out and I remember eventually getting through the fights and downing them several times for the weapons.

Now ninja is upcoming in the future so I decided I would trip through them again to just get some tokens so I have an instant i90 lv50 weapon for when I have it levelled up. Even as a i99 with huge amounts of echo im seeing parties struggle to even do the simplest things. It has clearly deteriorated to the point where people actually need to rely on echo to just clear things like killing feathers or nails.

This doesn't specifically apply to party finder as duty finder is just as much to blame for my bad experiences as I have always had issues with "farm" parties especially when levi and mog came out and all these farm parties couldn't even clear half the fight reliably.

But I must say when you don't meet a bad egg and make some decent progress on the fights people generally tend to friend list each other to try and sort it out later.

[Nukocafe]

Echo won't save someone who keeps taking 5 weights of land and landslides to the face unfortunately.
Once 2.3 comes, all those people who cannot clear titan will now be in Leviathan swimming off the deck.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I'm glad to see that this is basically a "general problem" everywhere. I'm thinking about starting a farm party for Levi this weekend and being completely merciless for anyone who obviously cannot dodge or stay on the deck. I think when I put things like "learning" people think it's "ok to be bad" lol.

I guess by now you expect people to "learn a fight" not "learn how to play their class or dodge AOEs."

[Zunde]

Six groups for various things all with rude messages in the comments.