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    This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

    I am entering The Praetorium for the first time and I am starting to watch my cutscenes. One person states "Please do not watch the cutscenes". I ignore him. Then towards the end I get kicked out because I am still watching my cutscenes. I am a paying customer and I will not be forced to skip my paying content period.

    This is unbelievable. Cutscenes in total take an extra 5m-10m maximum and that is not even worth an argument but I am making it in case someone argues back at how long they are but even that is still irrelevant.

    Then guess what? I managed to see all cutscenes but in everything we do, and especially in MMOs there is a trade-off so as you can tell a missed a couple of boss fights.And before you make the argument of seeing it afterwards, don't even bother. I am not going to experience a game or any game in small proportions. It ruins everything.

    So what is the solution? Simple. Implement a tool where there is a time-limit on watching a cutscene on average for first timers only. Disallow boss fights to start when a first-timer is watching cut scenes. No one should be forced to skip a content.

    When you let fate decide your type of group you either accept the randomization or you don't. In random groups you can get good players, bad players, impolite and impatient players. You get all walks of life because that is randomization; everything is a chance. If you want to do something such as a speed run or whatever run you feel like it like EXP run(s) then obviously make your own group with your own conditions.
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    Last edited by Authority; 06-19-2014 at 10:18 PM.

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    Soube Miseux
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    Report them and they will be punished for it. It's considered an abuse of the votekick system and is totally against the rules.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Report them and they will be punished for it. It's considered an abuse of the votekick system and is totally against the rules.
    How do I do that though? When people vote I don't know who participated and who agreed for that to happen...I only saw the "you have been dismissed" message.
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    Soveia Shadowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Report them and they will be punished for it. It's considered an abuse of the votekick system and is totally against the rules.
    SE already gave their blessing to kick players out for watching cutscenes.
    Although we understand the impact that is caused after being removed from a duty finder group, please be aware that Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if their game style differs (i.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics etc).

    To avoid such incidents in the future, we would advise to speak with either the group leader or fellow party members when joining a new group to discuss any specific party restrictions that need to be addressed (i.e. any loot priorities, allowing group members to watch cutscenes etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    SE already gave their blessing to kick players out for watching cutscenes.
    Wow... that sucks. ; ;

    I guess all we can hope is that SE will add "Please use the PF to indicate you want to watch cut scenes in this dungeon or ask your friends and Free Company to go with you" instead of "Use the DF to enter this dungeon." :/
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    Report them and they will be punished for it. It's considered an abuse of the votekick system and is totally against the rules.
    Pretty much this. The whole situation isn't fair for new players, honestly but there isn't much that can be done to change peoples' minds. Kicking people for enjoying the game is straight up abuse, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sadana View Post
    You've stumbled into one of the most vicious arguments on the OF about how to play the game. ^^;
    Also, this. There's a couple sides to the whole thing, one being that a fair majority of people are doing these 2 dungeons as part of a daily routine, so... they aren't in the mood to stand around and wait. New players pay for this attitude more than they should which I see as unfair, but it's also unfair to expect a group of vets to cater to you. 9/10 times I'll side with the new player though, unless they are real...pieces of work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance_Uppercut View Post
    Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.
    Speaking of "pieces of work"...
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    Pretty much this. The whole situation isn't fair for new players, honestly but there isn't much that can be done to change peoples' minds. Kicking people for enjoying the game is straight up abuse, though.
    Not that I care either way, I just thought I'd repost SE's stance that they have given on this subject, as it was posted earlier in this thread. Just so that people thinking their reports to gms will actually do anything, instead will realize it will go on deaf ears.


    Although we understand the impact that is caused after being removed from a duty finder group, please be aware that Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if their game style differs (i.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics etc).

    To avoid such incidents in the future, we would advise to speak with either the group leader or fellow party members when joining a new group to discuss any specific party restrictions that need to be addressed (i.e. any loot priorities, allowing group members to watch cutscenes etc).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noahlimits View Post
    Not that I care either way, I just thought I'd repost SE's stance that they have given on this subject, as it was posted earlier in this thread. Just so that people thinking their reports to gms will actually do anything, instead will realized it will go on deaf ears.
    Fair enough. I withdraw that statement, regardless of fairness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    You've stumbled into one of the most vicious arguments on the OF about how to play the game. ^^;
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