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    Blackweaver's Avatar
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    Kailia Greenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleT View Post
    lol if you force everyone to wait while you watch the cutscenes OP, nobody will do main scenario roullettes an you will have hour+ wait times to get in. so which do you want, to get the story completed or jsut to wait in duty finder forever?
    I definitely do think the OP needs to make a choice. For me when I was doing the main storyline quests, I did it for the story, even if it meant I couldn't experience the bosses the first time through. But luckily other than 1 person that was in the group in CM, my groups were pretty understanding and let me watch the cutscenes with no issues. I definitely feel every new player (When the dungeon announces that 1 or more people are new) should be allowed to watch the cutscenes.

    Viewing them later in an INN, isn't the same as going into the dungeon and experiencing the story as it happens. And if said person has the skip previously viewed cutscenes turned on, then the next time they do the dungeon, they'd skip the CS's with no issues. Doing the bosses does not require the full group to complete, so there's no chance of disruption. Unless either all healers are viewing cutscenes, or all tanks or viewing cutscenes, the group can progress with no issues. So the excuse they are disrupting the flow of the dungeon, is laughable of an excuse.
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    Last edited by Blackweaver; 06-25-2014 at 02:43 AM.

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    why ... is this still active?

    its like watching a Lizardmen cub trying to catch its own tail, just less entertaining
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    Yslera Ravshana
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    It is not selfish to play the game as intended and get the full experience. It is so sad that people are such poor gamers they have no idea how to game.
    "But 7 people want to grind and don't care at all about the noob and have no idea how to have fun with noobs ... what about them?"

    They're getting tomes. To stand around and wait. Yes, that's how it works.
    If they run ahead and kill everything, yes, they're being selfish.

    Empathy does not mean "Oh, 7 people want to grind; I guess I will ruin my first time experience" or "Oh, the majority are selfish; I guess I should let them push me around."

    Empathy means, "I was new once. I remember what that is like. Let's make sure the noob has fun, and hope they help the next noob have fun."

    It's a lot more fun to be a gamer than a grinder.
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    Isaac Aaron
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    Democracy at work. If the vote to kick passed then OP deserved to be kicked. Seven people > one. The one person who wants to hold up seven other people is the jerk in the scenario. It's that simple. Maybe I'd be more sympathetic if there was no way to view the CS ever again, but the inn is there for a reason. Be respectful of people's time and skip cutscenes.
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    How is thread still alive? Fact: SE already said kicking for watching cutscenes is fine by them. Hence, no matter your stance on it all opinions are moot. If you want a 100% chance of not getting kicked and you give a crap about cutscenes watch the cutscenes back in the inn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap75 View Post
    How is thread still alive? Fact: SE already said kicking for watching cutscenes is fine by them. Hence, no matter your stance on it all opinions are moot. If you want a 100% chance of not getting kicked and you give a crap about cutscenes watch the cutscenes back in the inn.
    Honestly, if I could find the Dev post saying this I would put it into my signature and be done with this topic permanently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    Honestly, if I could find the Dev post saying this I would put it into my signature and be done with this topic permanently.
    "Although we understand the impact that is caused after being removed from a duty finder group, please be aware that Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if their game style differs (i.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics etc).

    To avoid such incidents in the future, we would advise to speak with either the group leader or fellow party members when joining a new group to discuss any specific party restrictions that need to be addressed (i.e. any loot priorities, allowing group members to watch cutscenes etc)."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap75 View Post
    "Although we understand the impact that is caused after being removed from a duty finder group, please be aware that Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if their game style differs (i.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics etc).

    To avoid such incidents in the future, we would advise to speak with either the group leader or fellow party members when joining a new group to discuss any specific party restrictions that need to be addressed (i.e. any loot priorities, allowing group members to watch cutscenes etc)."
    Ah thank yee! ^^
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darki View Post
    Ah thank yee! ^^
    Here is the original post with the quote, with additional context:

    Quote Originally Posted by FireHero View Post
    Even better i reported this abuse to SE they generally mailed me back saying its my fault for not knowing how they were planing to take on the dungeon that its my fault that the 2 people in question abused the vote system to remove me and the healer!
    post edited with the replay i received

    Thank you for contacting FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn In-game support.

    We understand the impact that is caused after being removed from a duty finder group. However, please be aware that the Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if the game style differs (I.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics, equipment deemed not high enough, etc.),

    To prevent such incidents from occurring we advise to speak with the group when joining a new group to discuss any specifics that need to be addressed
    meaning my fault i did talk to the tank as he rushed of without waiting for a discussion on how we will fight a boss

    Again like i said i asked why he did do it the way i have seen most people go and just got the replay if you cant dodge learn the fight! This is all the discussion i got of the tank before being kicked
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    Last edited by Duuude007; 06-25-2014 at 08:24 AM.

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    Kailia Greenheart
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    In other words: The group needs to discuss what they want before the dungeon actually starts. And sorry but waiting till the end boss to boot someone for watching a cutscene, that is just being a bully and griefer if the group never as a whole, discussed what they wanted. Therefore, I do feel new players who are denied getting their quest finished at the very end of the dungeon, should report such a group. One thing if they boot the player before the first boss or whatever. Quite another to drag them along then boot them right before the end boss is pulled. Big big difference.
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