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    Lucke Arrayo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcshiggs View Post
    First I guess it's a good thing both story dungeons can be solo healed, you leaving just opens the door for someone else that is there to actually get something done.
    Second if the reward was too low, you are right, people would stop running it and new people would once again be on the forums complaining that it takes them over four hours for a party to form. This was already an issue and the reason that the main scenario roulette with it's current rewards was added.
    I can pretty much guaran-godsdamn-tee if the healer(s) or tank(s) left, you'll be sitting on your ass for awhile. If they leave, you're best bet to to leave and requeue because you'll be waiting for a rep of those 2 jobs for awhile. And the point of SRs is to "GOTTA GO FAST". Sitting on your butts waiting for the rarest roles to refill the party is the opposite of a SR. So...I laugh at your logic, or lack thereof.
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    Meridia Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    I can pretty much guaran-godsdamn-tee if the healer(s) or tank(s) left, you'll be sitting on your ass for awhile. If they leave, you're best bet to to leave and requeue because you'll be waiting for a rep of those 2 jobs for awhile. And the point of SRs is to "GOTTA GO FAST". Sitting on your butts waiting for the rarest roles to refill the party is the opposite of a SR. So...I laugh at your logic, or lack thereof.
    Just speaking from personal experience, but every time a tank or healer has left in Main Story roulette, they are replaced almost immediately. I've even tanked them on my BRD, although that's not the ideal solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    I can pretty much guaran-godsdamn-tee if the healer(s) or tank(s) left, you'll be sitting on your ass for awhile. If they leave, you're best bet to to leave and requeue because you'll be waiting for a rep of those 2 jobs for awhile. And the point of SRs is to "GOTTA GO FAST". Sitting on your butts waiting for the rarest roles to refill the party is the opposite of a SR. So...I laugh at your logic, or lack thereof.
    Did you not read the first sentence, that both can be solo healed, so if a healer leaves, they can carry on. So...I laugh at your reading comprehension and retention, or lack thereof.
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    Sapphic Meow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucke View Post
    I can pretty much guaran-godsdamn-tee if the healer(s) or tank(s) left, you'll be sitting on your ass for awhile. If they leave, you're best bet to to leave and requeue because you'll be waiting for a rep of those 2 jobs for awhile. And the point of SRs is to "GOTTA GO FAST". Sitting on your butts waiting for the rarest roles to refill the party is the opposite of a SR. So...I laugh at your logic, or lack thereof.
    I would either, if on MNK, leave and reque in progress as tank or healer depending whats needed. Or give a shout out to FC or LSs, 2 mins later, will be rocking again
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    This is still a problem?

    I quit back in October because of the community and cutscenes. It annoyed me to no end to see so many little kids ruining the first time experience of other players by screaming to skip cutscenes. I returned this weekend because I was under the impression a new mode of dungeoning had been made for those people, that assumed cutscene skipping. Is this seriously still an issue?

    Jesus, people are so impatient. "Omg you cost me an extra 4 minutes on my run by enjoying the content the way it was meant to be enjoyed! I KICK YOU!".

    Luckily, it is considered abuse of the votekick system now as far as I understand, and is extremely easy to investigate. You can report the person and be certain there will be repercussions, but it doesn't help with the current annoyance of not getting to enjoy the content properly the first time.

    I attribute this exact topic to be why FF14 is considered to have one of the most toxic communities in the industry. It's practically legendary how badly the community is viewed in other AAA titles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolmos View Post
    I attribute this exact topic to be why FF14 is considered to have one of the most toxic communities in the industry. It's practically legendary how badly the community is viewed in other AAA titles.
    Its merely individuals who are toxic. Like you and I. Takes one to know one, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Its merely individuals who are toxic. Like you and I. Takes one to know one, I suppose.
    True, but individuals like you and I are giving this game a bad name.

    Plus, I keep my toxicity to forums. I at least let new players enjoy the game the way it was intended to be enjoyed. I'm not in so much of a hurry that I would votekick some guy because he cost me an extra 2-3 minutes in the dungeon by watching cutscenes. That's just silly.
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    Duuude Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolmos View Post
    I'm not in so much of a hurry that I would votekick some guy because he cost me an extra 2-3 minutes in the dungeon by watching cutscenes. That's just silly.
    Well, a couple things here. Most of the people in this topic actually don't votekick if someone is watching cutscenes, they are merely arguing that those who wish to run ahead ALSO have the right to do so as someone watches cutscenes... Also, Praetorium isn't 'just' 2-3 minutes, multiply that by 10. Not counting the stuff after the final boss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
    You aren't contributing to the clearing of the instance if you're afk watching cutscenes. One or two people do that you're directly hampering the other player's progression through the zone and depending on your class that could classify as harassment. So, yeah, you'd most likely be kicked in most parties I've seen in Story Roulette.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzlebeard View Post
    You're right, I do. I treat it as a dungeon like any other and the majority rule wins. You want to dick around watching cutscenes while the other 7 people are forced to wait you can pretty much guarantee I'll be one of the people voting to kick your arse out the instance.

    Such a player as yourself shouldnt be queueing for Story roulette. Ever.

    If you feel you need myth then the issue is not your poor choices of doing something you shouldnt be doing (i.e. specifically queueing for a dungeon that is literally labeled as -story- aka watching cut scenes) its probably the lack of variety to collect the obscene amount of myth to do nearly anything in this game.

    An easy fix for this is not allowing vote kick of a "first time player."

    The system knows when a new player enters and instance (that little notice pops up and says something like "swift completion for completing duty will be grated for first time completion reward." Or whatever it says.)

    So its easy to just not allow kicking a new player. Simple.

    Have common sense.. everyone.

    New players are playing this game, if youre in a rush dont use duty finder. Get your raid/FC/LS to run dungeons with aka brayflox.

    More advanced players are playing this game, if you want to take your time and watch cutscenes, get your FC/LS or use party finder and click that button: "Slow and Easy," and "Story focused, no cutscene skipping."
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    Last edited by Daniolaut; 06-24-2014 at 03:39 AM.

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    Alter Kerl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniolaut View Post

    An easy fix for this is not allowing vote kick of a "first time player."

    The system knows when a new player enters and instance (that little notice pops up and says something like "swift completion for completing duty will be grated for first time completion reward." Or whatever it says.

    So its easy to just not allow kicking a new player. Simple.

    Have common sense.. everyone.

    New players are playing this game, if youre in a rush dont use duty finder. Get your raid/FC/LS to run dungeons with aka brayflox.
    This would pretty much be amazing.
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