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  1. #331
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Party Finder Main Scenario Roulette? All you're missing is the "In Need" bonus.
    You can't queue as a group for Main Scenario Roulette. Only Expert and High Level
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  2. #332
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    Then SE done goofed on that. Would certainly save some people a lot of grief and harassment.
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  3. #333
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nestama View Post
    Then SE done goofed on that. Would certainly save some people a lot of grief and harassment.
    It's intentional actually. The point of Roulette is to get people into those instances to help the people who need them. High and Expert aren't really required to be done at all, so it's not as big of a deal to allow full groups to queue as a group.
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  4. #334
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    Sairii Sairin
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    Quote Originally Posted by SDaemon View Post
    Fair enough and no because that would be afking and you can be vote kicked for that by any reasonable mind. That argument is purely nonsensical.
    Well how are you going to distinguish the afklers that watch the cutscenes from the new players that watch the cutscenes?

    If you watch all the cutscenes in Prae then you are pretty much afk from before first boss to endboss. Never fighting a single boss when the group goes on without you.
    I´ve seen people do this.
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  5. #335
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alphras View Post
    Castrum is almost 15 minutes. Praetorium is almost 30 minutes.

    Think what you want. But as long as Square wants to get the boring dungeons full and don't keep new players waiting to long, they will always be required to skip the cutscenes or miss the fights. It is as simple as that.

    Edit:
    And yes. The majority rules in an mmorpg.
    Out of curiosity I just timed the cs's from both. Not counting the final cs from CM (because you don't have to wait around for people to watch those), the total time is 7:04 not skipping any of Livia's or Cid's dialogue. Prae on the other hand is a whole other kettle of fish. I'm surprised Cid doesn't tell you how to wipe your butt in those cs's. Total time, ignoring the last scene, and allowing the voice actors to deliver their oscar worthy performances... 23:38. So while your estimate of CM is very exaggerated, you were surprisingly close to the mark with Prae. Though, you could probably knock off around 8 minutes if you read the text instead of sitting through the series of dramatic monologues lol.

    As for the rest, it has nothing to do with what I said, so I'll assume you were replying to other stuff people said.

    EDIT: To make it longer!
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  6. #336
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sairii View Post
    Well how are you going to distinguish the afklers that watch the cutscenes from the new players that watch the cutscenes?

    If you watch all the cutscenes in Prae then you are pretty much afk from before first boss to endboss. Never fighting a single boss when the group goes on without you.
    I´ve seen people do this.
    Because obviously new players wont sit in the cut-scenes for obscene periods of time. And you've seen it because people want to rush to their bonus, which is their choice ( a selfish one but their's nonetheless). Usually they watch the scenes as intended and then the next time fight the bosses. Its a sad and flawed outcome due to human nature but its the best they can hope for atm the way people's minds are set.
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  7. #337
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    Jesus ! People ! It's a MainQuest Dungeon!
    Don't go in there if you're not cool with people watching their cutscenes.
    If you don't want to wait do a BrayfloxHM SR, it's faster to gwt your damned myth points there anyways.

    I never understood why people enter the Castrum for thos lousy myth points if you can have 'em way faster with SR...
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  8. #338
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    Kikyo Cledwin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sax View Post
    Out of curiosity I just timed the cs's from both. Not counting the final cs from CM (because you don't have to wait around for people to watch those), the total time is 7:04 not skipping any of Livia's or Cid's dialogue. Prae on the other hand is a whole other kettle of fish. I'm surprised Cid doesn't tell you how to wipe your butt in those cs's. Total time, ignoring the last scene, and allowing the voice actors to deliver their oscar worthy performances... 23:38.
    You are assuming that everyone in the world reads at exactly the same word per minute rate that you do, of course?
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  9. #339
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirSaber View Post
    Jesus ! People ! It's a MainQuest Dungeon!
    Don't go in there if you're not cool with people watching their cutscenes.
    DF has no restrictions, no expectations. The more they incentivize it, the more people will try and find the most efficient way to get it over with.
    Quote Originally Posted by SirSaber View Post
    If you don't want to wait do a BrayfloxHM SR, it's faster to gwt your damned myth points there anyways.

    I never understood why people enter the Castrum for thos lousy myth points if you can have 'em way faster with SR...
    edit: gil? sb? idk. Still, forcefeeding cs's to someone who doesnt want them is just as bad as threatening to kick someone for watching them.
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  10. #340
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duuude007 View Post
    Because a daily 18 minute praetorium for 200 myth is faster than 4x 5 minute brays for the same amount.

    Its simple math.
    Since when does the "Duty Roulette: Main Scenario's" give out 200 Myth? Last I checked it only dropped 80 Myth for the Roulette, and 20 for the Dungeon itself for a grand whopping total of 100 Myth. It USED TO drop 200 Philosophy Tomestones, but since those are no longer a valid form of Currency, that is neither here nor there.

    If Praetorium is an 18 minute Speed Run, and you get 100 Myth for completing it... then 2x Brayflox Speed Runs at 5 minutes each is actually a better investment for your time spent...
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    Last edited by Tharian; 06-21-2014 at 03:43 PM.

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