This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

[Eidolon]

DF is designed not to have special restrictions. So as to not force anyone to do something they do not want to.

Except the reason the Main Scenario roulette was put in with the intention of helping new players be able to find parties for it. Before Duty Roulette, a lot of players were looking for party in /sh for upwards 3-4 hours. I know this because I used to be in an old FC with more newbies. It helped our community, sure, because they were grateful when helped - but more often than not, it was rough if you weren't like us intiial players who go through while the influx was huge.

So 200 myth, in a dungeon that lasts near 40 mins (restrictions implemented), when 400 can be earned in 40 mins of bray. Incentive.

If we're assuming that the time of 40 minutes is 'twice the time', then :

100 myth in 20 minutes (Restrictions not implemented) for 20 minutes of dungoun, when 200 myth can be earned in 20 minutes of Bray (BEING EXTREMELY GENEROUS WITH THE ASSUMPTION OF PURE 5 MINUTE RUNS - most PF's will take 6minutes, with time for loading in between pushing you to almost 7.) is no better for myth/hour, and is the same 5myth:1minute ratio. You basically disprove yourself by suggesting the extra time somehow hurts it when you're getting -double myth- for doing nothing but letting a person watch a cutscene (Whcih honestly won't double the time of the dungoun.)

That was my point. Allowing them to watch the CS and taking -slightly- longer for double reward, is the trade off.

[Cap75]

Took it out of context and you know SE didn't mean it that way. If someone is abusing the system by intentionally leaving themselves in a cutscene to troll people, yes that is considered harassment and can be kicked for it, not just simply watching them. If you are kicked from a DF for just playing the game it was intended to be, that isn't right. You can justify a kick in that regard if you made a PF party and specified it was a speed run with no CS's. If the player agreed before to speed run and decided to watch the CS's anyways, that is justified also.

The context is that was a response from a report filed by someone who got kicked for watching cutscenes a couple months back. It's the exact context.

[Lucke]

Since one of the problems discussed here is that the new players don't get to fight the bosses because they're in the middle of a CS, I have a solution. To add: the vets do a disservice to the new player by steamrolling content. They don't learn the mechanics of the fight, they don't learn the boss' abilities and how to counter them. The vets just sabotaged themselves because instead of adding a new player into the pool of vets that know what they're doing, they are keeping them noobs longer by not teaching the or having them learn the fight. Onto the solution.

I think that in story missions only, level 50 story missions specifically, instead of a level sync, SE could apply an iLVL sync. If CM/Prae are recommended for iLVL 50, then all the people that are iLVL 100 will have their gear stats reduced to iLVL 50 standards. This way, they can't just steamroll through the content. They may actually need the noob who's watching the cutscene. The iLVL sync obviously won't apply to the optional level 50 dungeons, like Brayflox and others, just the story mode dungeons.

[Sapphic]

Since one of the problems discussed here is that the new players don't get to fight the bosses because they're in the middle of a CS, I have a solution. To add: the vets do a disservice to the new player by steamrolling content. They don't learn the mechanics of the fight, they don't learn the boss' abilities and how to counter them. The vets just sabotaged themselves because instead of adding a new player into the pool of vets that know what they're doing, they are keeping them noobs longer by not teaching the or having them learn the fight. Onto the solution.

But they can, and probably will with roulette, run it again and do the boss fights. First time I cleared Titan HM I felt that I was carried. So I kept going back and hammering it till I survived till the end before I counted that I got a kill.

[Eggnook24]

And to the TC:

It will indeed stop. Except it will stop because you'll destroy any desire for veteran players to help new players. That's how it will stop.

Wanna seek for respect from the veteran players? Show respect first.

Not all veterans are self centered egomaniacs who think this story driven game is just a speed running fiasco for myth to purchase higher ilvl gear to satisfy their epeen. I like helping new players, and like knowing they are enjoying the game. Your previous content to rally all vets to lockout end story runs is retarded. That being said, if you decide to protest and not run those instances, guess what, no real loss. There will always be players who are will Ing to help newbies. You and your kind can brayflox till your eyes bleed.

[Aushi]

Not all veterans are self centered egomaniacs who think this story driven game is just a speed running fiasco for myth to purchase higher ilvl gear to satisfy their epeen. I like helping new players, and like knowing they are enjoying the game. Your previous content to rally all vets to lockout end story runs is retarded. That being said, if you decide to protest and not run those instances, guess what, no real loss. There will always be players who are will Ing to help newbies. You and your kind can brayflox till your eyes bleed.

I stand with ya. I will always help new players, no matter what. I don't care for speed runs, I like enjoy cutscenes even if I saw them a million times before~ Heck I get on PF and find groups that need help in content I've already done all the time. I like helping, and like you and me, there's plenty more. A loooot more.

[Ilitsa]

Not all veterans are self centered egomaniacs who think this story driven game is just a speed running fiasco for myth to purchase higher ilvl gear to satisfy their epeen. I like helping new players, and like knowing they are enjoying the game. Your previous content to rally all vets to lockout end story runs is retarded. That being said, if you decide to protest and not run those instances, guess what, no real loss. There will always be players who are will Ing to help newbies. You and your kind can brayflox till your eyes bleed.

I agree wholly. I find it to be a lot more fun when I get into a castrum/Prae run with a few new players to it, Seeing a new player's reaction as the last bits of the main story come to an end is far more rewarding to me, personally than the handful of myth the dungeon gives.

[Aushi]

It's a community game. You paid for the game, but so did they. When I was doing the story I came to a compromise in moments like those. I explained I would not skip the scenes, but I didn't care if I missed the fights. Then I que'd up again, skipped the scenes and took part in the fights. Happy medium for everyone.

Put your big boy/girl pants on and realize not everything in this world goes your way, this isn't a single player game. It was stupid of them to kick you simply because you watched the scenes, that in itself sounds like a silly tantrum. But it is also rather silly that you expect every single individual in the game to cater to you as if they don't pay for the content either.

It's not your fault they wish to speed, but it isn't their fault that you didn't voice out your objection either. Perhaps because you didn't they thought you were simply AFK. Communication and compromise like the adults most of us are.

[Joshyuchiha]

If you want to speedrun for myth tomestones do Brayflox. Don't ruin new players' experience in the main story content just because you're in too much of a hurry to finish STORY DRIVEN content... It's disgusting that people think that this kind of behavior is okay...

[Mcshiggs]

If you want to speedrun for myth tomestones do Brayflox. Don't ruin new players' experience in the main story content just because you're in too much of a hurry to finish STORY DRIVEN content... It's disgusting that people think that this kind of behavior is okay...

Brayflox's Longstop is story driven too, there is the lower level version that leads to the quest to get the hard mode, and haven't you noticed the little bits of goblin dialogue in the dungeon, that's all story, not main story line, but still STORY DRIVEN content homie. As for not ruining new player's experience, if it wasn't in duty roulette, and able to be speed ran, then new players would get to wait around and wait and wait, how immersive is that? "We need you to infiltrate the castrum and take it down now." "Sure thing, I'll get to it in a few hours when I can get some people to help, I don't want these people over here that will have it done in under half an hour."