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    OPneedNerfs's Avatar
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    OPneedNerfs, please like I stated before.....test that assumption at your own leisure if you like and then you will find out what happens when you harass another player for either being new or learning the game. Anyone who thinks VKing a player for watching cutscenes or learning a fight are the bane of a positive gaming community which only erodes the enjoyment of the game for all players.
    If you actually bothered to read the OP, they actually let the OP watch his valuable cutscenes until the last fight before kicking because he did not contribute much to the completion of the dungeon. He even admitted himself with this jewel right here:

    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    Then guess what? I managed to see all cutscenes but in everything we do, and especially in MMOs there is a trade-off so as you can tell a missed a couple of boss fights.And before you make the argument of seeing it afterwards, don't even bother. I am not going to experience a game or any game in small proportions. It ruins everything.
    At least the players in his group allowed him to watch the cutscenes all the way TO THE END before kicking. The OP is overreacting and being a kid really. It's a lower level of frustrating similar to having someone in the group fall off titan right at the start and claiming loot at the end of the fight.

    1. OP got to watch his cutscenes, all the way till the end.
    2. OP ignored the other players asking him to not watch cutscenes, so they responded in kind by not wasting their own time and going ahead with fights.
    3. OP is unhappy he got kicked because he did not contribute enough to the completion of the dungeon.

    It's almost as if you players on the EN servers don't wish to complete content when you queue for the DF. DF has one purpose and one purpose only, which is to help you form a group from a bigger pool of players from different servers to aid in the completion of said content. Obvious with this being an MMO, your time < their time and their time < your time. Your time = their time. Watch cutscenes if you will, if your party is nice, they'll let you watch it. If your party is even nicer, they'll let you get a free ride to complete the dungeon with you doing nothing at all right till the end other than watching cutscenes. Else, it's either a kick at the start(this is the worst case obviously) or kick at the end(where you actually got to view ALL the cutscenes up till the final boss).

    Now, if the new player was only wanting to go in to view the cutscenes for their first time for the immersion, he already got his goal as he got to watch the cutscenes uninterrupted. The next time he goes in, assuming he got kicked like the OP in the previous run, he can actually skip the cutscenes now and do the battles for the other part of immersion.

    tl;dr you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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    OP, I will say one simple statement, report the elitist players for their violation....then enjoy the knowledge that they will eithier be suspended for a period of time hence they lose RL money for their stupity, or if they do it enough they will get banned and lose over 8 months of work they put into the game and lose more money on top of that if they prepaid the game......that's all you gotta do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    OP, I will say one simple statement, report the elitist players for their violation....then enjoy the knowledge that they will eithier be suspended for a period of time hence they lose RL money for their stupity, or if they do it enough they will get banned and lose over 8 months of work they put into the game and lose more money on top of that if they prepaid the game......that's all you gotta do!
    Which if the knowledge that those actions were taken gets out will drive other players away, make some not queue for mainstory, drive up queue times, make new players think the population is low because of insanely long queue times, and be extremely harmful to the game. Great plan. Remember that every action will have many unintended consequences. This plan has enough negative consequences to drive the game f2p.
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    Last edited by Kerberon; 06-20-2014 at 01:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberon View Post
    Which if the knowledge that those actions were taken gets out will drive other players away, make some not queue for mainstory, drive up queue times, make new players think the population is low because of insanely long queue times, and be extremely harmful to the game. Great logic and thought process.
    I would rather wait in que for a hour to help other players learn the game with positive people than spend 1 min in que with elitist jerks who think they are something special because of some video game when clearly they are not......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    OP, I will say one simple statement, report the elitist players for their violation....then enjoy the knowledge that they will eithier be suspended for a period of time hence they lose RL money for their stupity, or if they do it enough they will get banned and lose over 8 months of work they put into the game and lose more money on top of that if they prepaid the game......that's all you gotta do!
    Oh my god can people actually read the thread they're replying to and stop posting nonsense? It's been pointed out several times that GMs do not punish people at all with an actual quote from a GM saying that they do not mediate player disputes. You are in fairy land if you think GMs are anywhere near as harsh as vindictive people wish they were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarcasmMisser View Post
    Oh my god can people actually read the thread they're replying to and stop posting nonsense? It's been pointed out several times that GMs do not punish people at all with an actual quote from a GM saying that they do not mediate player disputes. You are in fairy land if you think GMs are anywhere near as harsh as vindictive people wish they were.
    Clearly written when you initiate a Vote Kick:Please be warned that unjustified usage of vote dismiss is a punishable act. If you also read: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...8&id=5382&la=1, it also tells you what those punishments are. So it is not about GM's being vindictive people, its about fair play and regulations set down by SE in regards to player conduct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madruck View Post
    Clearly written when you initiate a Vote Kick:Please be warned that unjustified usage of vote dismiss is a punishable act. If you also read: http://support.na.square-enix.com/fa...8&id=5382&la=1, it also tells you what those punishments are. So it is not about GM's being vindictive people, its about fair play and regulations set down by SE in regards to player conduct.
    You're wrong just admit it and stop posting dribble.
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    not really much can be done about this. if they just created new 8-man dungens for more roulets that were at least challanging then this would not be forcing players who have been playing for almost a year to do these silly dungens with new players. new players shud not have to be paired with such players. i think the alternative is that instead of skiping ur cs u will need to wait 1 hour for duty finder to pair you with a set of people who do not wish to skip cs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Authority View Post
    I am entering The Praetorium for the first time and I am starting to watch my cutscenes. One person states "Please do not watch the cutscenes". I ignore him. Then towards the end I get kicked out because I am still watching my cutscenes. I am a paying customer and I will not be forced to skip my paying content period.
    Hmmm...

    I posted the same thing a few days ago, but instead of support, I get snarky comments and attacks. Instead of 70 likes I got 17. I guess I need to be less constructive and use more caps and bold lettering next time I bring an issue up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffo_The_Clown View Post
    Hmmm...

    I posted the same thing a few days ago, but instead of support, I get snarky comments and attacks. Instead of 70 likes I got 17. I guess I need to be less constructive and use more caps and bold lettering next time I bring an issue up.
    Buff, you have got to remember that most players on FF14 are elitist coming from other games that went too casual for them since they want to feel better than other people which clearly they are not. If you state one thing they goes against their believe that they are a better player than you because of their elitist attitude with any form of feedback, you will most likely get trolled because these same players feel good about trying to lower your positive attitude to their negative one.
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