This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

[Noahlimits]

Pretty much this. The whole situation isn't fair for new players, honestly but there isn't much that can be done to change peoples' minds. Kicking people for enjoying the game is straight up abuse, though.

Not that I care either way, I just thought I'd repost SE's stance that they have given on this subject, as it was posted earlier in this thread. Just so that people thinking their reports to gms will actually do anything, instead will realize it will go on deaf ears.

Although we understand the impact that is caused after being removed from a duty finder group, please be aware that Game Masters will be unable to take action if a group member has been removed due to a player dispute, or if their game style differs (i.e. skipping in-game cutscenes, disagreement on using specific boss encounter tactics etc).

To avoid such incidents in the future, we would advise to speak with either the group leader or fellow party members when joining a new group to discuss any specific party restrictions that need to be addressed (i.e. any loot priorities, allowing group members to watch cutscenes etc).

[Ametrine]

My first run, I immediately said I was new after watching the opening. The group asked if I would please skip the rest, in which I responded asking if I had landed in a speed run that was short a healer. I had.

I said I could skip to watch later, but I would need guidance to make it through the dungeon, and they did.

100% civil, really good run. I even got commends from despite "dragging" the group down.

All because we were all willing to compromise. Who'd think of that?

[Vahlnir]

Not that I care either way, I just thought I'd repost SE's stance that they have given on this subject, as it was posted earlier in this thread. Just so that people thinking their reports to gms will actually do anything, instead will realized it will go on deaf ears.

Fair enough. I withdraw that statement, regardless of fairness.

[Noshpan]

There is no right or wrong answer to this dilemma. The only thing wrong is how players treat each other. Telling one group "Use Party Finder if you want to watch cut scenes." can be equally justified as saying "Use Party Finder if you want to do speed runs." Both groups are entitled to their playstyle, but there comes a point where you just need to go with the majority or get left behind (or removed). Sure, it's possible to watch all the cut scenes at the inn (just note that you may want to select the specific dungeon and not Main Scenario), or even on Youtube (that's what I did). But there are some cut scenes, at least in CM, that I feel are not necessary even to progression the story. That being the case, there really should be more communication between players.

I wish I could provide a solution, but I can only provide suggestions of what both sides can do in the mean time (assuming that there will ever be a solution).

[Darske]

The problem is, that right now a large chunk of rude and impatient players are flat out abusing Duty Roulette: Main Scenario. It is there to help new players progress through their content, and rewards more experienced players for helping the newbies. I don't think this purpose is adequately stated or enforced at present.

Let me say it again: Main Scenario is not for speedrunning. It is not for quick myth, and it is not something you NEED to do. The reward is so high because you're helping new players, but right now players are bypassing the purpose of the system at the expense of the very people it is designed to help. I'm not sure if this is a problem exclusive to the NA community, but it really needs to be addressed. Punishing players that do this after-the-fact is nice, but this actually needs to be prevented in some way as well. Every time it happens, it sours the endgame experience of a new player, and they might even quit because of it.

[Landsoul]

Add an additional bonus to players that guide new players that has not completed the dungeon before.

[Cap75]

There is no real solution. It's a problem SE created themselves. Putting long, story relevant cutscenes in a raid is just plain dumb. It should have worked into the solo content between raids with a final long cutscene at the end of the raids when people who aren't interested in watching them can leave. Unfortunately it's too late to fix it.

[stupiddog]

Add an additional bonus to players that guide new players that has not completed the dungeon before.

Actually, this exists already (at least in all <lvl48 or so dungeons). However, the benefit is homeopathic and it does not differentiate between "oh well, let's just drag him through this" and some real guidance and communication.

[ArkAurelius]

I still think SE should implement 2 different queues for Castrum and Praetorium.

Make it so people queueing on duty finder only queue with those in their current end game status.

Pre-end game players only queue with other pre end game players, while the plauyers that are queueing via duty roulette dont roll with pre end gamers.

That, or simply make your own Party Finder group.

[Cap75]

The problem is, that right now a large chunk of rude and impatient players are flat out abusing Duty Roulette: Main Scenario. It is there to help new players progress through their content, and rewards more experienced players for helping the newbies. I don\\'t think this purpose is adequately stated or enforced at present.

I hear that argument all the time yet not once has anyone produced a quote from SE that states that\\'s the "purpose" of anything in the DF. And nobody is getting punished after the fact as SE has already clearly stated (in a few posts above yours no less) that kicking someone for watching cutscenes is fine with them.