This needs to be stopped, and immediately.

[Giantbane]

I am entering The Praetorium for the first time and I am starting to watch my cutscenes. One person states "Please do not watch the cutscenes". I ignore him. Then towards the end I get kicked out because I am still watching my cutscenes. I am a paying customer and I will not be forced to skip my paying content period.

This is unbelievable. Cutscenes in total take an extra 5m-10m maximum and that is not even worth an argument but I am making it in case someone argues back at how long they are but even that is still irrelevant.

Then guess what? I managed to see all cutscenes but in everything we do, and especially in MMOs there is a trade-off so as you can tell a missed a couple of boss fights.And before you make the argument of seeing it afterwards, don't even bother. I am not going to experience a game or any game in small proportions. It ruins everything.

So what is the solution? Simple. Implement a tool where there is a time-limit on watching a cutscene on average for first timers only. Disallow boss fights to start when a first-timer is watching cut scenes. No one should be forced to skip a content.

The end game dungeons, especially Prae, have at least 10min of cutscenes (probably more if you're on a ps3 with slow load times). If SE wants to tell a story in the middle of a dungeon, they need to do it in an interactive way where you are playing while experiencing the story. Leave big cutscenes to the end of a dungeon (after the last boss) or solo content.

With that said, the problem is that you're not the ONLY paying customer. And just as much as you "will not be forced" to skip content you paid for, you have 7 others who "will not be forced" to sit around dong absolutely nothing while someone else is watching those cutscenes.

However, it's BS if they kick you just for watching cutscenes. But if they want to keep going without you, that's their choice. Just like it's your choice to watch the cutscenes.

When you let fate decide your type of group you either accept the randomization or you don't. In random groups you can get good players, bad players, impolite and impatient players. You get all walks of life because that is randomization; everything is a chance. If you want to do something such as a speed run or whatever run you feel like it like EXP run(s) then obviously make your own group with your own conditions.

I find it hilarious that you insist during random dungeon runs, that the majority of the group cater to the small minority that hasn't done the dungeon yet. If you want to watch the cutscenes, make your own group with your own conditions. If you use the convenience of the duty finder, you're going to have to accept that you randomly may or may not get a group that will wait for you to watch the cutscenes.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

[Zakalwe]

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

No. The player who kicked him deserved to be reported. I'm sympathetic to rouletters who don't want to wait, but this is clearly kick abuse.

[Eye_Gore]

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

Yeah. Don't anyone listen to this jibberish. The game world comes crashing down because you want to play how you want to play. Though I know you're suppose to play this game just like everyone else wants you to, just like most online games, "you don't play like me so you are doing it wrong" attitude just plain sucks. But its part of the online world, shrug it off like yesterdays garbage.

What it comes down to is, if you DF for dungeons, its a mixed bag of nuts. If you use PF you can make your own bag of nuts.

[Parodine]

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

Boo flippity hoo. Someone would have to wait 15 more minutes to get their stupid myth and got mad because they care more about virtual tomestones than a new player getting a proper conclusion to the story.
Cause that's how we'll retain new players, telling them to skip cutscenes or f-off.

[Azure_dragon-]

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to kick other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be reported for abuse of vote kick.

[Ghastly]

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

This attitude is why Square has to make cut-scenes mandatory.

[Noahlimits]

This attitude is why Square has to make cut-scenes mandatory.

The crazy fact that many people have brought up and everyone else is ignoring:

90% of people would stop doing roulette main scenario if they were forced to watch the cut scenes. That would make que times for any main scenario be 3+ hours, just like the 8 man instance just before the prae/castrum currently is. If they didn't have these speed runners, they likely wouldn't ever get people joining via DF. Or they'd wait 3+ hours.

So if you're wondering why they haven't implemented a forced cutscene watch into the roulette, that's why. While the current layout isn't ideal, it's much better than the alternative. Heck, I've seen screen shots of people waiting 8+ hours in a que for the 8 man just before prae/castrum. It's no joke of a wait time.

[Vahlnir]

Report them and they will be punished for it. It's considered an abuse of the votekick system and is totally against the rules.

Pretty much this. The whole situation isn't fair for new players, honestly but there isn't much that can be done to change peoples' minds. Kicking people for enjoying the game is straight up abuse, though.

You've stumbled into one of the most vicious arguments on the OF about how to play the game. ^^;

Also, this. There's a couple sides to the whole thing, one being that a fair majority of people are doing these 2 dungeons as part of a daily routine, so... they aren't in the mood to stand around and wait. New players pay for this attitude more than they should which I see as unfair, but it's also unfair to expect a group of vets to cater to you. 9/10 times I'll side with the new player though, unless they are real...pieces of work.

Skip the cutscenes and watch them at the inn. Stop being so damn entitled, thinking you have the right to hold up seven other people because you want to experience the game a certain way. You deserved to be kicked.

Speaking of "pieces of work"...

[Baneus]

Question: the quests for main story specifically state to use Duty Finder, will they complete if you use the Party Finder instead?